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Old 02-13-2011, 09:29 PM   #1
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Ichigo is the exact same as he was right before he was about to fight Grimmjow in HM. Ichigo starts out in bankai and is unrestricted. Orihime and Nel are nowhere in sight.

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Old 02-13-2011, 09:30 PM   #2
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Ichigo gets his ass kicked, both scenarios, low difficulty

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Old 02-13-2011, 09:36 PM   #3
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Nnoitra wins both scenario

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Old 02-13-2011, 09:52 PM   #4
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Ichigo is weaker than Nnoitra by far.

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Old 02-13-2011, 10:09 PM   #5
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Vaizard Bankai Ichigo is weaker than Unpatched Kenpachi?

This same guy who was equal to Unpatched Kenpachi in terms of reiatsu output while Shikai in SS?

Actually wait, you're implying Vaizard Bankai Ichigo is weaker than Patched Kenpachi?

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Old 02-13-2011, 10:11 PM   #6
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Ichigo's Getsuga Tensho didn't even scratch Grimmjow, so it obviously won't do shit to Nnoitra.

That leaves CQC, which Nnoitra will easily fodderize him in.

Ichigo got a huge ass powerup from Zangetsu and that wasn't enough because his hollow still had to save his life, that's the only reason he even tied with Kenpachi, because as we saw earlier, Kenpachi was able to fodderize a Shikai Ichigo.

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Old 02-13-2011, 10:59 PM   #7
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You'd need the VB Ichigo who went up against Ulqy to defeat Nnoitra.

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Old 02-13-2011, 11:06 PM   #8
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Maybe more...

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Old 02-13-2011, 11:09 PM   #9
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Well I personally think the VB Ichigo who was superior to Base Ulquiorra could take Nnoi down with high difficulty,

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Old 02-13-2011, 11:13 PM   #10
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You see how much damage that Ichigo did to Ulq?

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Old 02-13-2011, 11:20 PM   #11
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Yeah but that doesn't matter. Nnoitra might have better defense than Ulquiorra but that's all he has. Ulquiorra is his superior in all other categories and his own style of fighting is more suited for battling Ichigo than Nnoitra's is.

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Old 02-13-2011, 11:24 PM   #12
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Not really, Ichigo is a CQC fighter. Nnoitra would dominate him there.

As for defense, you don't understand. Ichigo is going to be doing very small amounts of damage, if any at all, and thats WITH his mask on

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Old 02-13-2011, 11:28 PM   #13
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Kenpachi can cut Nnoitra.

Are you seriously saying one-handed Kenpachi is THAT much stronger than VB Ichigo? i find that hard to believe.

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Old 02-13-2011, 11:36 PM   #14
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The only chance for Ichigo is if he has resolve, which probably won't happen seeing the conditions. Grimmjow tanked a pointblank GT with no scratches whatsoever, so that attack obviously won't work against Nnoitra's Hierro. Ichigo could try to use his speed advantage similar to how Nelliel used hers, but that really won't work if Ichigo can't seriously injure Nnoitra. So I'd say Nnoitra takes this with mid difficulty due to his CQC skills.

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Old 02-13-2011, 11:43 PM   #15
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He is, even when patched.

Look at how much Bankai Ichigo did to Base Ulq with a wide open hit. Nnoitras hierro is stronger. VB Ichigos getsuga didn't even phase Ulq

Lets look at a stronger Ichigos doing against the 2nd strongest hierro
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Compared to patched Kenny slashing off both Yammy and Nnoitras limbs like they were butter, with 1 hand.

Ichigos attack power is far from Kennys, as is most characters

The version in this thread is weaker than both, Ichigo will fail so bad

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Old 02-13-2011, 11:54 PM   #16
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Patched Kenpachi and Patchless Kenpachi are not stable things. It depends on how long he wears it and how much of his reiatsu it absorbs.

I doubt the patched Kenpachi of HM was much weaker r than his full strength self as not much energy had been drained. He'd only been wearing it for a few months I think.

And I just find it absurd Kenpachi gained a bajillion levels in strength while Ichigo did as well...but it left him still behind Kenny. It makes no sense.

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Old 02-14-2011, 12:09 AM   #17
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I don't think that theory on how long hes been wearing it determining his power is valid. Too many unknown variables would need to be applied for it to be true, so as far as Im concerned patched Kenny is patched Kenny

What levels in strength do you speak of? Kennys striking power has always been high.

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He was equal to Shikai Ichigo. Even if you believe he got help from his Hollow that wouldn't make him way above Vizard Bankai Ichigo by the time he fought Ulquiorra.

The idea Ichigo at his strongest level we've seen him at (that wasn't some bullshit temporary powerup) is still leagues behind Kenpachi is just dumb in my book.

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Old 02-14-2011, 12:19 AM   #19
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Noi stomps, he states to have the hardest hierro. Masked Ichigo had trouble fighting a weaker hierro 4th ranked Ulq and he only beat grimm due to orohime rescue mode....so he would lose.

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Old 02-14-2011, 12:22 AM   #20
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Thats just how it is....

Its pretty clear looking at how Kenny could dice up the Espadas with the 1st and 2nd strongest hierros, being ranked 0 and 5th, while VB Ichigo could barely nick the 4th, and after a poweup, nick the same Espada Kenny amputated many times

FKT Ichigo, fully healed, is the strongest non-temp poweup Ichigo we've seen, not HM Ichigo...

I don't get the problem here

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