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Old 12-20-2010, 10:24 PM   #1
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Old 12-20-2010, 10:38 PM   #2
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Long range vs short range. Not the best match-up. Neji also has nothing to penetrate his sand defense.

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Neji isn't keeping Kaiten up forever, and then he'll die.

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So this is pretty much all ready decided? I'm gonna have to go with Gaara unless someone can tell me more than two moves Neji used during his fight with Naruto at the time

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Old 12-21-2010, 12:14 AM   #5
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CE arc Neji doesn't have the running speed to bypass Gaara's sand shield. If this was SRA Arc Neji it'd be different though. You should make this SRA Arc Neji to even up the playing field a bit.

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Not saying Neji will win, but Gaara's sand and therefore his defence is infused with chakra. The Gentle Fist can break through chakra substances, so there's a chance Neji can break through and deal some damage

That's if he isn't sand squelched to death before

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Even if there is a possibility for Neji to beat Gaara back then, which I doubt, there's still Shukaku that would litteraly eat Neji.

Neji can't win this, it was pretty much clear that Gaara was the strongest genin back then, even Gamabunta didn't really stood a chance against Shukaku and Naruto used his very best to tie with Gaara.

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Gaara.

Neji probably has enough speed to bypass Gaara's auto defense, but his attacks just aren't the right type to hit through his defense. It takes high physical strength or a piercing jutsu to break through it, and Neji's jyuken doesn't fall in either of those categories. He could defend against his attacks, but kaiten isn't going to last forever. It isn't really going to protect him against a mid air coffin either, since you can't spin in mid air, especially in such a tight space.

If by some chance Neji does beat Gaara, I wish him luck against the forest destroying Bijū.

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Old 12-21-2010, 07:00 AM   #9
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Neji

Why are people saying that he cannot break through Gaara's absolute defence; mind you that Jyuuken destroys Chakra-based substances, effectively, as was told by Neji to Kidomaru during the SRA; also we've seen the force of the divinations break through a tree without even making direct contact with it.

Any variations of Gaara's sand offenses, such as Sabaku Kyu (Sand Coffin) should be dispersed by Neji's releasing of Chakra, if it consumes him as we've seen how such a thing was done during Part I. See the escape from Suiro no Jutsu for futher details.

P.S. It ends when Gaara is in range of the divinations

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hmm bart might be right yano. i call it close till gaara goes chibi shukaku den he eats neji for breakfast.

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I thought it was made pretty clear that Neji was Gaara's perfect counter

You guys are forgetting that the sand Gaara uses is wielded by chakra
It could easily be countered by Neji's Jyuuken

None of Gaara's attacks will work on Neji

Sand Armor is easily bypassed w/ 64 palms or standard Jyuuken
Sand shield got bypassed by Sasuke and Lee's taijutsu
Sand Burial/ coffin isn't containing Neji who can release chakra from his body

Those are the basics of Kaiten

Once Neji gets in range and does his divinations, I see little Gaara can do can defend himself and come out victorious

After a long hard fought battle, I see the Hyuga coming out victorius

Victor: Hyuuga Neji

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Neji does not have the movement speed that Rock Lee and Sasuke had.

Hence, Guy's method of training for Rock Lee to beat Neji, using extreme fast movement speed with excellent hand to hand combat proficiency.

What Neji makes dangerous is the speed of his reflexes and his hand to hand skills. Once he's nearby you, he will strike you so many times you would lose count, you can compare it basically to Wing Chun, as seen in the movie Ip man with Donnie Yen.

Gaara's sand is very fast and he likes to keep his distance, he will attack non stop, just to keep Neji in bay, which he won't succeed.

His sand armor might protect him from some of Neji's strikes, but it will drive Gaara crazy, which means:

Enter: Shukaku

Well, it was nice knowing you Neji.

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Sasukes speed during the chunin exam was the same as nejis so if sasuke was fast enough to bypass sand shield then so is neji. Now as for the sand itself it has chakra in it which means gental fist should be able to disperse it as well as the sand armor. Gaara will put up one good fight but in the end I see neji winning.

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Neji does not have the movement speed that Rock Lee and Sasuke had.

Hence, Guy's method of training for Rock Lee to beat Neji, using extreme fast movement speed with excellent hand to hand combat proficiency.

What Neji makes dangerous is the speed of his reflexes and his hand to hand skills. Once he's nearby you, he will strike you so many times you would lose count, you can compare it basically to Wing Chun, as seen in the movie Ip man with Donnie Yen.

Gaara's sand is very fast and he likes to keep his distance, he will attack non stop, just to keep Neji in bay, which he won't succeed.

His sand armor might protect him from some of Neji's strikes, but it will drive Gaara crazy, which means:

Enter: Shukaku

Well, it was nice knowing you Neji.
Guy thought lee the gates so he would have enough speed to beat neji and guy says he needs to open 5 to beat him and sasuke was never in any databook faster than neji they have always been a tie or nejis been faster

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Sasukes speed during the chunin exam was the same as nejis so if sasuke was fast enough to bypass sand shield then so is neji. Now as for the sand itself it has chakra in it which means gental fist should be able to disperse it as well as the sand armor. Gaara will put up one good fight but in the end I see neji winning.
Ehm no.

How on earth did you came up with Neji? Sasuke's speed was compared to Lee's. It was Lee that had the most impressive movement speed, there's certainly no feats that puts Neji on Lee's or Sasuke's level of movement speed.

Neji is far superior to either Sasuke and Lee at that time when it came down hand to hand speed and reflexes.

I still don't understand people that think Gaara won't use Shukaku against Neji. He will make Gaara mad, and when the Bijuu is on the battlefield it's game over for Neji.

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Ehm no.

How on earth did you came up with Neji? Sasuke's speed was compared to Lee's. It was Lee that had the most impressive movement speed, there's certainly no feats that puts Neji on Lee's or Sasuke's level of movement speed.

Neji is far superior to either Sasuke and Lee at that time when it came down hand to hand speed and reflexes.

I still don't understand people that think Gaara won't use Shukaku against Neji. He will make Gaara mad, and when the Bijuu is on the battlefield it's game over for Neji.
Read my post above and read the databook stats. What many of you just disregard the databook like like they where made just because if that was the case then they would be useless

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Neji disabled Naruto's chakra only to get that replaced by his tailed beast's chakra and completely blindsided Neji. (pun)

So even if by some miracle Neji manages to seal Gaara's chakra, he will still lose.

Match will probably be over before that, since this is in-character, Gaara will go inside his sand globe. Neji will see inside with the byakugan and see something terrible inside. (it's Shukaku)

He'll forfeit right there if he's smart. Otherwise he gets smeared all over the arena floor like strawberry jelly on a sandwich.

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Guy thought lee the gates so he would have enough speed to beat neji and guy says he needs to open 5 to beat him and sasuke was never in any databook faster than neji they have always been a tie or nejis been faster
The category 'speed' does not only refer to movement speed, it refers to all types of speed.

Just because character A and B share the same amount of number doesn't mean that they are both just as fast as each other. One could be much faster in movement speed and the other in reflexes and in hand to hand combat.

Guy never said such thing, give me a link.

The gates were Lee's trumph card to beat Neji, in order to beat Neji, a ninja like Rock Lee who's not proficient in ninjutsu nor genjutsu, must have much superior movement speed and high level taijutsu in order to beat his rival.

Speed kills, that's why Guy pushed Rock Lee to his limits and beyond.

Manga > databook.

There are no panels that suggest that Neji had superior movement speed than Rock Lee nor Sasuke, if he did, than Might Guy utterly failed at training Rock Lee, because the movement speed was the only advantage he ever had against Neji.

And Shukaku is still the game ender here.

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Read my post above and read the databook stats. What many of you just disregard the databook like like they where made just because if that was the case then they would be useless
Neji wasn't as fast as Neji or Sasuke by the Finals. The Databook gave him a speed ranking of 3 and there's nothing to suggest that in that month's time he improved his speed by a tier. However like Bart sais Jyuken destroys chakra based substances and as I recall the shield is loaded with chakra.

You may have a point here Bart. I forgot that the shield was made with chakra. I thought it was only the armor which is why I said he could probably pressure Gaara if he was faster.

In the end though he'll just call upon his biju's power.

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So the only defense for Gaara's here is that Gaara call upon Shakaku, right?

ENTER: Jyuuken to Gaara's Heart

EDIT: If Neji wasn't equal or better than Lee's speed, why would he even needs gates to challenge Neji??

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