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Old 09-19-2010, 03:47 PM   #1
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Default Madara Uchiha vs Orochimaru

Location: Where Orochimaru fought KN4
Starting distance: 30 meters
Restrictions: Edo Tensei
Knowledge: None for either
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Who wins?

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Old 09-19-2010, 03:49 PM   #2
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These Madara threads need to stop, because the only real matchups are Minato and Pain for him.


On topic. Madara wins. Orochimaru has no way to actually avoid Madara's space/time suck in, if he get's close enough. Even Minato had to resort to a Hiraishin in order to avoid it. And if anything goes bad there is 5 minutes of intangibility and 10 minutes of invincibility.

And top that with one of the best genjutsu's we've seen in the manga, when Oro was punked by an 11 year old Itachi paralysis genjutsu.

Madara wins 9.99/10 times.

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Old 09-19-2010, 03:53 PM   #3
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Intangibility and S/T jutsu and Orochimaru is weak against Genjutsu

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Old 09-19-2010, 03:53 PM   #4
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Konan could interrupt it. If he tries, then ORochimaru could as well with an extending Kusanagi

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Orochimaru likes to fight in close quarters. Hell, he lets people hit him for fun just to see if it will hurt.

Madara taps him out 5 seconds into the match and it's over.

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Madara takes this. Oro doesn't have any attacks that would force Madara to use 5 minutes of Intangability. Oro is also very weak against Genjutsu, and it seems like Madara has Itachi's level of Tsukuyomi.

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Old 09-19-2010, 04:28 PM   #7
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I don't see how Orochimaru has a chance. He's a textbook perfect target for Madara to warp away. Madara's attack is actually extremely dangerous and is basically a one shot 'kill' on anyone he touches – even Orochimaru. And Orochimaru will practically present the opportunities to be touched.

If anyone has a different view, the thread will stay open. Otherwise it's going.

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Old 09-19-2010, 06:05 PM   #8
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Pretty much what everyone else says, Orochimaru is fast, but he's close range, and doesn't usually 'care' about his body as such, he'll allow himself to get ripped apart knowing he can re-attach himself with snakes.

With no knowledge he'll be far to careless and cocky and instantly be sucked up by Madara. Even WITH knowledge he doesn't have much that can withstand Madara's genjutsu abilities.

Madara with easy difficulty.

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If Orochimaru had a hard time, or to be more accurate, cannot take down Itachi during his full strength, I don't see how he can take Madara.

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Old 09-19-2010, 07:28 PM   #10
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Orochi can oral rebirth from the old body to escape vacuum cleaner but this will only prolong inevitable defeat. 10/10 for Madara.

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Old 09-19-2010, 08:10 PM   #11
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You should unrestrict Edo Tensei for this to get more interesting cuz Oro has little to chance at all.

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Old 09-19-2010, 08:22 PM   #12
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Madara wins with moderate to hard difficulty.
With no knowledge, Orochimaru will get warped away with Madara's Space Time Ninjutsu, it's that simple.

Orochimaru's durability is useless here, as Madara doesn't needs to kill him to win.

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Oro vs the sharingan always ends up one sided

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Old 09-19-2010, 09:11 PM   #14
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its weird how everyone restricts oro best tech and then try to make him look weak.
no restrictions, full knowledge or no knowledge i say oro gives madara a fight.
for example i think oro should be able to edo tensei hanzo.
he seemed obsessed with collecting dna and human experiments. i mean how on earth did kabuto get itachi genes??
if hanzo is on the field i think with both of them attacking madara will be hard pressed

but considering that Op restricted him, im guessing he wants madara 2 win

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Anyone got anything to say on the other side, or is this too unbalanced?

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I don't know Esponer.

We know that Madara has a good endurance {As he blocked a sword with his arm with ease} and that he can just disappear and appear at whim, and Izanagi just lets him take some hits with no risks.

It seems quite unbalanced to me.


Maybe this thread shouldn't be closed, but Madara's Space-Time Ninjutsu or Izanagi should be restricted.

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I don't know Esponer.

We know that Madara has a good endurance {As he blocked a sword with his arm with ease} and that he can just disappear and appear at whim, and Izanagi just lets him take some hits with no risks.

It seems quite unbalanced to me.


Maybe this thread shouldn't be closed, but Madara's Space-Time Ninjutsu or Izanagi should be restricted.
We haven't seen any of Madara's feats. APART from Izanagi and his Space-Time Ninjutsu, Restrict those and what else can we discuss?.. I'd say this is far to one sided until we learn of Madara's other abilities, in which case we can place more restrictions on him, but to be honest, i still cant see Oro doing much against a sharingan user.

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I'm surprised this thread is still open, considering Orochimaru's track record against Uchiha.

Orochimaru's only chance is to use Yamata no Jutsu and make it a battle of attrition. Madara has no counters for such a large tecnique and his genjutsu will be useless as long as Orochimaru hides or switches heads. This will still fail, as Yamata's size and regeneration will tire Orochimaru far before Madara loses the stamina necessary to disable Izanagi and phasing.

My crackpot theory: If Orochimaru is getting sucked into Madara's Sharingan and fires the Kusanagi straight out, what would happen? Would Madara continue to try and absorb an infinitely extending weapon? If Orochimaru is efficient enough, could he use Kusanagi to pull himself back from being warped?

Probably not.

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We haven't seen any of Madara's feats. APART from Izanagi and his Space-Time Ninjutsu, Restrict those and what else can we discuss?
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My crackpot theory: If Orochimaru is getting sucked into Madara's Sharingan and fires the Kusanagi straight out, what would happen? Would Madara continue to try and absorb an infinitely extending weapon? If Orochimaru is efficient enough, could he use Kusanagi to pull himself back from being warped?

Probably not.
Most likely Madara would have used Izanagi, so what happens in this scenario is kind of irrelevant.

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Orochimaru vs the Ultimate Uchiha?This can only end one-way,considering his record against the Uchiha.

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