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Old 07-15-2010, 02:07 AM   #1
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Default Byakuya vs. Soifon

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Both start at base levels

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Byakuya starts at Bankai, Soifon at Shikai.

I just don't think Soifon's Bankai would ad much here...it would hinder her if anything. If you disagree, you may alter Scenario 2 so it's Bankai vs. Bankai.

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Old 07-15-2010, 03:24 AM   #2
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Byakuya takes both at most with moderate difficulty imo.

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Old 07-15-2010, 04:01 AM   #3
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Soi Fon probably beats him with Shunko in the first scenario but the second is nearly rape in Byakuya's favour.
I don't think her bankai will help a whole lot, but at least she will be able to injure Byakuya so I guess it's moderate difficulty. How she is going to set up is what I have no idea of, though, since OP didn't specify the distance etc.

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Old 07-15-2010, 07:41 AM   #4
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Soi Fon probably beats him with Shunko in the first scenario but the second is nearly rape in Byakuya's favour.
Idk. Soifons Shunko was way inferior to Yoruichi's who on the bridge stated at her current state (the one that Soifon still couldnt beat) couldn't defeat Byakuya...

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Idk. Soifons Shunko was way inferior to Yoruichi's who on the bridge stated at her current state (the one that Soifon still couldnt beat) couldn't defeat Byakuya...
Her base body alone is more superior than Byakuya, she has more speed and physical strength and I doubt Byakuya could handle her with shunko activated.

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well byakuya is one of the strongest captains, when soifon is quite weak compared to some of the other captains. byakuya would win the 1st scenario mid-hig difficulty and 2nd scenario with mid- difficulty.

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Her base body alone is more superior than Byakuya, she has more speed and physical strength and I doubt Byakuya could handle her with shunko activated.
Fair enough...but they only start in base form. With both at base I doubt Soifon can speed blitz Byakuya, and if she does go Shunko, Byakuya can always go bankai. Though not sure if OP wants them to stay in base for scenario 1 (does shunko equal base?).

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well byakuya is one of the strongest captains, when soifon is quite weak compared to some of the other captains. byakuya would win the 1st scenario mid-hig difficulty and 2nd scenario with mid- difficulty.
No he isn't, he was deafeted by SS Ichigo? Furthermore how is he better in base than Soi Fon? Soi Fon has better speed and strength and has far more maneuvers than Byakuya. Byakuya's swordmanship skills and hand-to-hand skills are not very good and I don't see him being able to land a major blow on Soi Fon.

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Fair enough...but they only start in base form. With both at base I doubt Soifon can speed blitz Byakuya, and if she does go Shunko, Byakuya can always go bankai. Though not sure if OP wants them to stay in base for scenario 1 (does shunko equal base?).
Even without Shunko she has far more better skills in base than Byakuya and Shunko is allowed, base simply means they cannot release.

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Bankai Byakuya can take out SoFail SoiFon in any scenario you can possibly think of even with shunkou. I will however say that I believe she gets a sufficient enough boost with shunkou to defeat Shikai Byakuya, but thats about it.

Her Bankai hinders her chances of winning IMO.

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No he isn't, he was deafeted by SS Ichigo? Furthermore how is he better in base than Soi Fon? Soi Fon has better speed and strength and has far more maneuvers than Byakuya. Byakuya's swordmanship skills and hand-to-hand skills are not very good and I don't see him being able to land a major blow on Soi Fon.



Even without Shunko she has far more better skills in base than Byakuya and Shunko is allowed, base simply means they cannot release.
Soifon's Battle Data. Offense (80), Defense (60), Mobility (100), Kidō/Reiatsu (60), Intelligence (60), Physical Strength (100). Total: 460/600.

Byakuya's Battle Data. Offense (90), Defense (80), Mobility (90), Kidō/Reiatsu (90), Intelligence (90), Physical Strength (70). Total: 510/600

and well obviously byakuya will loose to ichigo... zaraki lost to ichigo too and soifon would have lost too. byakuya is just all around a better fighter than soifon. and ichigo would have lost to byakuya if he didn't have the hollow transformation which he uses to win most fights.

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Soifon's Battle Data. Offense (80), Defense (60), Mobility (100), Kidō/Reiatsu (60), Intelligence (60), Physical Strength (100). Total: 460/600.

Byakuya's Battle Data. Offense (90), Defense (80), Mobility (90), Kidō/Reiatsu (90), Intelligence (90), Physical Strength (70). Total: 510/600

and well obviously byakuya will loose to ichigo... zaraki lost to ichigo too and soifon would have lost too. byakuya is just all around a better fighter than soifon. and ichigo would have lost to byakuya if he didn't have the hollow transformation which he uses to win most fights.
You have yet to answer my question, how is Byakuya better in base than Soi Fon and take note that databook stats are not approprriate when comparing base statistics. Additionally the databook statistics are not very accurate, Kenpachi has the lowest entry yet he should be capable of beating people like Mayuri(w/o prep).

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Soifon wins the first scenario with mid diff, but loses the second one.

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You have yet to answer my question, how is Byakuya better in base than Soi Fon and take note that databook stats are not approprriate when comparing base statistics. Additionally the databook statistics are not very accurate, Kenpachi has the lowest entry yet he should be capable of beating people like Mayuri(w/o prep).

well it says both START at base... but anyways. byakuya has shown great skill using kido, he is among the fastest kido users in bleach. he is also capeable of using high level hado and bakudo without incantations, this gives him a huge advantage, soifon has shown probably 1 bakudo which was Bakudo # 30 Shitotsu Sansen and she did it slower than byakuya when he used Bakudo #61. Rikujokoro and note the 31level difference in the 2 kido spells...

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Idk. Soifons Shunko was way inferior to Yoruichi's who on the bridge stated at her current state (the one that Soifon still couldnt beat) couldn't defeat Byakuya...
Yeah but Byakuya also had bankai and Yoruichi seemed to leave her sword behind.
If her shunko can't even make her beat base Byakuya then I can only facepalm at its power.

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You have yet to answer my question, how is Byakuya better in base than Soi Fon and take note that databook stats are not approprriate when comparing base statistics. Additionally the databook statistics are not very accurate, Kenpachi has the lowest entry yet he should be capable of beating people like Mayuri(w/o prep).
Aren't they only good for comparing base statistics because abilities are not taken into account?

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Byakuya wins both scenario's with mid difficulty. Captain vs Captain are not easy fights, except for Yamamoto and Aizen. Byakuya can put together some kido with his shikai and pull the victory out although with trouble. The second scenario belongs to Byakuya with very little trouble I see.

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Byakuya wins both scenario's with mid difficulty. Captain vs Captain are not easy fights, except for Yamamoto and Aizen. Byakuya can put together some kido with his shikai and pull the victory out although with trouble. The second scenario belongs to Byakuya with very little trouble I see.
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Yoruichi completely blitzed Byakuya on the bridge back then. Soi Fon is equal/faster than that Yoruichi.

Soi Fon wins both scenarios through blitzing. Byakuya might be able to pull out a win in a Bankai vs Shikai fight though since the numbers of his Bankai could overwhelm, but it's not likely. In a straight up fight her Bankai is useless since if she tries to fire it from afar Byakuya could raise some petals on the way to him to cause the missile to detonate on collision before the missile even reached him.

Soi Fon wins all scenarios put forth and would only lose Bankai vs Bankai

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