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Old 07-01-2010, 07:15 AM   #1
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Yondaime Senju=Uchiha/Uzumaki=Hyuuga

Senju, Uchiha and Uzumaki all are confirmed to be distant relatives having a common ancestor, the Sage of Six Paths.

I wonder where the Hyuuga fit in?
I am guessing they are the equilvlant of the Uzumaki like the Senju and Uchiha were during the warring era

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Old 07-01-2010, 07:29 AM   #2
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What's wrong with you people. Trying to link the Hyuuga to the Sage of the Six Paths constantly.

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Old 07-01-2010, 07:41 AM   #3
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Hmmm... because the manga indicates that the Uchiha and Hyuuga have blood ties.

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Old 07-01-2010, 08:00 AM   #4
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Hmmm... because the manga indicates that the Uchiha and Hyuuga have blood ties.
The manga or Kakashi? The same man who has shown to fail at history constantly, I mean he believed RS was a myth and believed that the Rinnegan was just a mutation

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Yeah it all adds up.

It makes me wonder if there are six families descended from Rikudo Sennin.

There's no evidence that says the Hyuga aren't related to the others. Madara happily deleted anything that didn't help him manipulate Sasuke from his story. He didn't mention an Uzumaki either. Nor did he mention having to take Sasuke's former best friend hostage as a newborn to get his Kyubi back....oh wait he denied involvement.

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The manga or Kakashi? The same man who has shown to fail at history constantly, I mean he believed RS was a myth and believed that the Rinnegan was just a mutation
Everybody thinks that the Rikudo Sennin was a myth there's no proof with the exception of the stone tablet that you need a dojutsu to read that the Uchiha keep nice and locked up beneath their lands.

And when did he refer to the Rinnegan as a myth?

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The Hyuga are the oldest Clan in Konoha, being older than the likes of the Senju and the Uchiha, so it does make alot of sense. And the whole thing with Hinata's symbol appearing at Nakano Shrine on Rikudou's tablet should definitely not do unnoticed.

Kishimoto was definitely speaking through Kakashi when he made that comment in Part I, as clearly if it wasn't true why include it?

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what's a hyuuga?

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Old 07-01-2010, 03:05 PM   #8
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Hmmm... because the manga indicates that the Uchiha and Hyuuga have blood ties.
The fact that at first Kakashi dismissed anything Rinnegan related tells you a lot.

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The fact that at first Kakashi dismissed anything Rinnegan related tells you a lot.
Oh yeah he dismissed someone who created the kingdom of Ninjutsu, battled arguably the most dangerous being of all time and created the Moon

That's far more understandable.

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Oh look, more Hyuuga speculation. That's fine, on to more Uchiha and Uzumaki stuff Kishi.

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Old 07-01-2010, 03:12 PM   #12
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The Hyuga are the oldest Clan in Konoha, being older than the likes of the Senju and the Uchiha, so it does make alot of sense. And the whole thing with Hinata's symbol appearing at Nakano Shrine on Rikudou's tablet should definitely not do unnoticed.

Kishimoto was definitely speaking through Kakashi when he made that comment in Part I, as clearly if it wasn't true why include it?
I can agree with everything other than the "Hyuuga symbol". It is not the Hyuuga symbol, as far as we're aware. Other than part 1 Hinata, the Hyuuga did not wear it, and Hinata does not in part 2.

So saying that it is the symbol of the Hyuuga is pretty bottomless. It is quite clearly a flame. A flame which quite clearly indicates ties to the fire country.
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And yes, obviously the Hyuuga are connected to the fire country, considering they, like the Uchiha and Senju, are clans of the Fire country.

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Oh yeah he dismissed someone who created the kingdom of Ninjutsu, battled arguably the most dangerous being of all time and created the Moon

That's far more understandable.
Indeed. So then he obviously linked the Sharingan's roots to the eyes that wasn't a myth, the Byakugan. He was proved wrong when we learnt about the Sharingan's true origins.

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Old 07-01-2010, 03:19 PM   #14
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lolHyuuga.

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Old 07-01-2010, 03:20 PM   #15
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You mean the Hyuuga have relevance to the plot?

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I think it's quite obvious that the Hyuuga are related to the elder brother. Kind of ironic that the elder child is the one who joins the main branch while the youngest would be apart of the lesser branch.

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Indeed. So then he obviously linked the Sharingan's roots to the eyes that wasn't a myth, the Byakugan. He was proved wrong when we learnt about the Sharingan's true origins.
Kakashi didn't suggest there wasn't a Rinnegan, only that he thought Rikudou was a myth.

Kakashi: "The Rikudou Sage? He's nothing but a myth. The Rinnegan is just a mutation."

It doesn't really suggest otherwise, doesn't it?

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Kakashi didn't suggest there wasn't a Rinnegan, only that he thought Rikudou was a myth.

Kakashi: "The Rikudou Sage? He's nothing but a myth. The Rinnegan is just a mutation."

It doesn't really suggest otherwise, doesn't it?
He was forced to believe the Rinnegan was real at that point- it killed him.
But still dismissed the Sage as a myth.

In Part 1, when he made the Byakugan remark: he didn't meet a Rinnegan. So tell me would he have believed it existed back then?

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Ohh don't be stupid people. Their doujutsu must have come from somewhere (COUGH ELDER BROTHER). Most likely that some Uchia branched off from the clan, bred into some other family and the Hyuga's were cerated from that. Simples.


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He was forced to believe the Rinnegan was real at that point- it killed him.
But still dismissed the Sage as a myth.

In Part 1, when he made the Byakugan remark: he didn't meet a Rinnegan. So tell me would he have believed it existed back then?
Nothing is suggested he was forced to believe it, or else the term "myth" would have been the last sentence.

He knew about the Rinnegan, as suggested here, knowing it was a "mutation".

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