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Old 06-24-2010, 01:23 PM   #1
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Default Dr. Manhattan vs Captain Atom

Both of them are in New York City, Time square.
1.Why are they fighting?
2.How whould the fight go down?
3.Who would win?

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Old 06-24-2010, 01:54 PM   #2
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Captain Atom, I'm 99% sure of this. Captain Atom would just use the Quantum Field.

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Why are they fighting?

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Old 06-24-2010, 02:00 PM   #4
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Atom got pissed because Manhattan flashed him.

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Old 06-27-2010, 11:52 PM   #5
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Dr. Manhattan atomizes captain atom with a wave of his hand.

Dr. Manhattan controls particles on a sub-atomic level, meaning he can create matter out of nothing or evaporate pretty much anyone who stands in his way.
Captain Atom just controls and absorbs energy, which Dr. Manhattan can virtually "destroy", or at least rearrange into something useless, like a metal.

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Dr. Manhattan controls particles on a sub-atomic level, meaning he can create matter out of nothing
Technically that would be making something out of very little .

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Old 06-28-2010, 07:40 AM   #7
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Technically that would be making something out of very little .
Hyuck.

Either way, he still creates stuff out of thin air by manipulating sub-atomic particles, like when he created that gigantic crystal palace on Mars.

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Captain Atom can just use the Quantum Field on him like he did to Nekron.

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Old 06-28-2010, 02:10 PM   #9
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Captain Atom can just use the Quantum Field on him like he did to Nekron.
Elaborate, please.

The Quantum Field is the source of his power, his power is to absorb and manipulate energies.

Energy, as well as everything else, is made out of sub-atomic particles, which Dr. Manhattan controls.

Dr. Manhattans powers thus cancels out Captain Atom's powers.

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Elaborate, please.

The Quantum Field is the source of his power, his power is to absorb and manipulate energies.

Energy, as well as everything else, is made out of sub-atomic particles, which Dr. Manhattan controls.

Dr. Manhattans powers thus cancels out Captain Atom's powers.
I don't know about Captain Atom but if his power is control of energies he should win.

Isn't matter energy not energy matter? The more basic thing is energy

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Dr. Manhattan was based off CA iirc.

Anyway, CA wins. He's just simply better.

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Old 06-28-2010, 06:59 PM   #12
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I don't know about Captain Atom but if his power is control of energies he should win.

Isn't matter energy not energy matter? The more basic thing is energy
In physics, energy is a quantity that can be assigned to every particle, object, and system of objects as a consequence of the state of that particle, object or system of objects. Different forms of energy include kinetic, potential, thermal, gravitational, sound, elastic, light, and electromagnetic energy.

Captain Atom's body isn't made of pure energy, hence he can be destroyed by someone who controls sub-atomic particles, just like any other thing seen destroyed by Dr. Manhattan. He could get destroyed if he was pure energy as well, Dr.M would just disperse the particles making up the energies.

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Old 06-28-2010, 07:05 PM   #13
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Dr. Manhattan was based off CA iirc.

Anyway, CA wins. He's just simply better.
Yeah, he's "better" alright, since he can manipulate and control energies, while Dr. Manhattan controls sub-atomic particles, ergo he can create matter out of this air as well as make the particle disperse, ergo evaporating things.

What exactly is CA going to do?
Blast Dr. M to bits? We all remember what happened wen Ozymandias tried.
If CA would be able to blast Dr. M, he would just reconfigure himself and evaporate CA.

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Couldn't Atom just absorb Manhattan and beat him that way?

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Elaborate, please.

The Quantum Field is the source of his power, his power is to absorb and manipulate energies.

Energy, as well as everything else, is made out of sub-atomic particles, which Dr. Manhattan controls.

Dr. Manhattans powers thus cancels out Captain Atom's powers.
No they dont. Dr Manhattan has never overpowered a possible universal/multiversal force. Captain Atom has beaten Nekron, an abstract being and confirmed > the Endless by Johns.

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No they dont. Dr Manhattan has never overpowered a possible universal/multiversal force. Captain Atom has beaten Nekron, an abstract being and confirmed > the Endless by Johns.
So just because he hasn't done it, means he couldn't do it, despite his powers being proved to be superior to CA since he could destroy CA the same way he destroys anything?

Fail.

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Couldn't Atom just absorb Manhattan and beat him that way?
Well, even if he could absorb him, even though he isn't made out of pure energy, he would still be able to recreate himself like he did in the comic/movie when he was "destroyed". It's well within his powers to maintain his consciousness even when atomized.

He does control sub-atomic particles after all, so he can reform himself as well as evaporate any incoming attack.

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So just because he hasn't done it, means he couldn't do it,
Yes, exactly.

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despite his powers being proved to be superior to CA since he could destroy CA the same way he destroys anything?
What circular reasoning. His powers were never PROVEN to be above CA, you're just speculating that they are, even though CA has gone toe-to-toe with people like Mr. Majestic.

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Yeah, since you're having an extremely hard time understanding the fact that Dr. Manhattan controls sub-atomic particles, ergo the particles that 1: Make up the energies CA uses, such as photon, or nuclear energies (You know, the ones attained by splitting ATOMS?) and 2: make up CA's body.

He wouldn't be able to do shit against Dr. M, while Dr. M has little problems with evaporating him by making his atoms disperse. Can CA effortlessly regenerate from an atomized state? Could he regenerate from having his molecules turned into carbon or some other material?
Can he counter the fact that Dr. M could turn his energies as well a his insides into lead?

Even if CA could fire an energy blast which would destroy Dr. M, by reversing the process using the same energies Dr. M has, he would be able to reform himself and can retain his consciousness on a molecular level, as evident by the comic.

You haven't got shit, the only BS you've got is stating some retarded crap about CA being able to beat this or that person, which hasn't got a fucking thing to do with this discussion.
Do they have the exact same powers as Dr. M?
No, which makes your claim completely irrelevant.

You're just a CA wanker unable to come up with any explanation for how CA could counter someone who would control the atoms making up him as well as his energies.

CA controls energies, Dr. M controls energies AND matter.
Add the omniscience to that equation, and the stomp is obvious.

GTFO and take your fail with you, it's obvious you haven't got the slightest clue about what Dr. M can do.

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Um yeah no, all I see is you spamming the same bullshit arguments you've done since the beginning. You're the one who has no clue of CA, and wanking off to the few things we know of Manhattan. But no worries, I'm here to educate you

- He can travel at FTL speeds. When did Manhattan show this level of speed? If so, what stops him from getting speedblitzed.

- CA's energy manipulation extends far beyond a normal range. He's taken away the powers of other foes such as Ray and Firestorm. He'd do the same to Manhattan.

- He's shown atomic transmutation as well, so there goes your claims of ONLY ENERGY LAWLLZZ

- He can time travel.

- He has shown the power to end and recreate the universe with the Quantum Field, and various other times such as when he was Void and when he was Monarch.

Your claims are mainly constructed of repeated no-limits fallacy, even though Manhattan doesn't come anywhere above mid, possibly high-Herald level. Are you telling me he could beat MM or Sentry at matter manipulation? Ok then.

CA also has shown the ability turn energy into matter and atomic control, turning a nanotech being into a human and other times as well. So what makes you jump on his dick so quick in this match? Other than speculated power?

Dr Manhattan can survive universal destruction, yeah.


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