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Old 11-06-2009, 06:37 AM   #1
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Zero Lucifer Morningstar,Michael Demiurgos and Elaine Belloc vs the Celestials

angels for the win, Elaine is the presence

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Old 11-06-2009, 06:50 AM   #2
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The one with Omnipotence wins

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Old 11-06-2009, 10:45 AM   #3
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The Celestials both and inside their universe, would lose badly IMO.

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Old 11-06-2009, 12:55 PM   #4
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Elaine "The Omnipotent" Belloc?

*Blinks*

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Old 11-06-2009, 12:57 PM   #5
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So that's a nigh-omnipotent, a nigh-omnipotent, and an omnipotent.

I see how this is a good match.

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Old 11-06-2009, 02:25 PM   #6
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Without Elaine it's pretty even.

Tiamut
Scathan

and about a billion other celestials

vs. Lucifer and Michael.

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Old 11-06-2009, 04:10 PM   #7
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Elaine is literally the definiton of the whole Creation now and became Omnipotent in her universe. Elaine at end of the Lucifer comics or Michael himself should take them on his own.

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Old 11-06-2009, 08:14 PM   #8
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Michael himself should take them on his own.
No .

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Old 11-06-2009, 09:03 PM   #9
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Elaine is literally the definiton of the whole Creation now and became Omnipotent in her universe. Elaine at end of the Lucifer comics or Michael himself should take them on his own.
micheal by himself vs the entire celestial race?

err no he'd be massacred so would lucifer

unless your nemisis or wielding the IG your not taking down the entire celestial race


well no to be fair the LT could do it..but then again the LT rape stomped all over the IG with a mere gesture so

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Old 11-06-2009, 09:21 PM   #10
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Scathan, a Celestial, was stronger than LT.

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Old 11-06-2009, 09:29 PM   #11
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Scathan, a Celestial, was stronger than LT.
Not that it's exactly pertinent to this thread, but, as usually happens when he's shown up, I thought the LT that fought Protégé was supposed to have been an M-Body.

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Old 11-06-2009, 09:30 PM   #12
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Not that it's exactly pertinent to this thread, but, as usually happens when he's shown up, I thought the LT that fought Protégé was supposed to have been an M-Body.
There's only one LT in Marvel.

And if it was an M-body, it would have all of LT power, anyway.

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Old 11-06-2009, 11:34 PM   #13
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An omnipotent and two nigh-omnipotents...
Yep, this is fair.

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Old 11-06-2009, 11:59 PM   #14
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There's only one LT in Marvel.

And if it was an M-body, it would have all of LT power, anyway.
i wouldn;t consider that cannon then...unless there was reason given


especially given just how powerful he is..and he;s been shown to treat the guys who pwn Celestials like shit

that has to be some Bullshit...

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It is canon, whether you consider it to be or not.

All Celestials do not have the same level of power.

Who has he beaten that easily beat Celestials?

He never actually fought an IG wielder.

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It is canon, whether you consider it to be or not
so Captain America can choke the hulk out?

the Sentry can stalemate Galactus? these things happened..but their bullshit..i doubt any one takes them seriously....

more so..there have been instances regarding the Lt has jobbed and the editors have flat out stated that its not cannon.his low showings as far as i am aware have been officially tossed out

so yeah...this maybe one of those..

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so what? no Celestial has shown omniversal power..none..there is an lack of evidence...

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Who has he beaten that easily beat Celestials?
if its cannon that Eternity created the Celestials..and thats not been rectonned..then for a start...their creator bows before him

Big has out and out killed one Celestial..and eaten it...while he has shown to struggle with more then one

more over.the Lt Shut off the IG like it was nothing and more or less told adam warlock that they'd destroy the multiverse but he'd still win
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He never actually fought an IG wielder.
he killed nemisis..aparently...and she was the IG

more over his feats with the brothers and other such things place him well over any thing any celestial has shown

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so Captain America can choke the hulk out?

the Sentry can stalemate Galactus? these things happened..but their bullshit..i doubt any one takes them seriously....

more so..there have been instances regarding the Lt has jobbed and the editors have flat out stated that its not cannon.his low showings as far as i am aware have been officially tossed out

so yeah...this maybe one of those..



so what? no Celestial has shown omniversal power..none..there is an lack of evidence...



if its cannon that Eternity created the Celestials..and thats not been rectonned..then for a start...their creator bows before him

Big has out and out killed one Celestial..and eaten it...while he has shown to struggle with more then one

more over.the Lt Shut off the IG like it was nothing and more or less told adam warlock that they'd destroy the multiverse but he'd still win


he killed nemisis..aparently...and she was the IG

more over his feats with the brothers and other such things place him well over any thing any celestial has shown
You're talking about PIS, this is not PIS since we have no other showings from Scathan to suggest he is weaker than LT. Your example doesn't apply.

It's not a low showing, you don't know what you're talking about. Scathan was shown to simply be stronger than LT. No, it's not one of those.

No, there isn't a lack of evidence, since you know, Scathan showed that power.

It is completely irrelevant who created the Celestials, that says nothing about where there level of power is.

I have no idea who Big is or what you're talking about.

He never told AW he would win, he said their fight would destroy reality. In fact, LT was never sure he could beat AW.

LT didn't beat Nemesis.

Yes, every Celestial except Scathan.

You are pretty much wrong on everything and most of your argument doesn't even make sense.

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When was this?

Scans if possible, please.

I thought LT was the the second-most powerful being in Marvel, second only to TOAA...

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Was in the Protege storyline, w/e that was Guardians of the Galaxy.

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When was this?

Scans if possible, please.

I thought LT was the the second-most powerful being in Marvel, second only to TOAA..
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which is backed up by every one...and almost every comic

thats probably one of those feats like Captain America punking hulk..or spiderman beating fire lord

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