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View Poll Results: Who has the most expertise at using Chidori/Raikiri
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Old 10-22-2009, 01:41 PM   #1
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Default Kakashi's Raikiri Vs Sasuke's Chidori

I made this thread To ask you guys which variant of the chidori you like better. Kakashi's Raikiri or Sasuke's Chidori.


Standard Chidori/Raikiri

I beleive Kakashi takes this, although both of them have been shown to use Chidori without handseals, and with Kakashi's recent chakra boost in part 2 it doesn't seem like either of them will be running out of chakra using it. Sasuke has never been shown to do any decent damage to anyone with his chidori.
Gaara - Barely hurt him
Naruto - Did some damage, but ultimately didn't effect him. (mostly due to the nine tails chakra.)
Raikage - Flesh wound.

Whereas Kakashi has more experience in this field, he killed haku instantly, serverly wounded Kakuzu and then killed him. Aswell as killing many other Fodder. It just seems like whereas sasuke has the ability to spam chidori at his opponents, he never really does any damage with it and ends up relying on the cursed seal aswell as his MS. Also, Kakashi's raikiri seems to be alot more powerful than Sasuke's chidori, probably due to the years of refinement.

Chidori/Raikiri Variants

I beleive this round is a draw. Sasuke has shown to be adept at using Chidori and has mastered it in a very short time (though not to an as high extent as Kakashi) and has successfully managed to create powerful variants such as
Chidori senbon
Chidori nakagashi (sp?)
and his chidori katana combos

Whereas Kakashi has shown
Double Raikiri
Raikiri wolf
and a raikiri clone

Although it seems like sasuke takes this, probably because of the short time and variety of the jutsu he has created, I feel as though Kakashi has a lot he hasn't shown. Raikiri has been his trademark jutsu from a very young age, and I think the reason we haven't seen more lightning varients is because he hasn't been in many fights whereas he has had to resort to using them (Such as the pein fight) and because of his wide jutsu pool he hasn't needed to.

Anyway, Discuss! And vote. I'm probably being biast towards Kakashi so it will be good to hear your oppinions on wether Sasuke has truly surpassed Kakashi at his own technique.

Edit - Who would win in a chidori vs raikiri variant fight? No other jutsu allowed except basic substitutions and clones

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Old 10-22-2009, 01:44 PM   #2
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Kakashi's Raikiri is ranked S in the DB while Sasuke's Chidori is A-rank like all of his other variations,so there is a big difference.Also Kakashi's Chidori can cut a lightning bolt in half while Sasuke's strongest Raiton jutsu is a lightning bolt

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Kakashi created it before sharingan. He's a raiton stud.

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Kakashi created it before sharingan. He's a raiton stud.
True :L Sasuke had the sharingan to help him learn Chidori whereas Kakashi developed it himself before ataining the sharingan.

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So what, is this yet another anti sasuke thread that belittles the characters skills and abitlites compared to other ninja's? So if Sasuke is inferior in sharingan techs compared to his brother and is inferior in raiton creativety compared to Kakashi, what may I ask is Sasuke good in that isn't overshadowed by others and used to compare?
Good question. But the answer is no one and nothing.

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So what, is this yet another anti sasuke thread that belittles the characters skills and abitlites compared to other ninja's? So if Sasuke is inferior in sharingan techs compared to his brother and is inferior in raiton creativety compared to Kakashi, what may I ask is Sasuke good in that isn't overshadowed by others and used to compare?
How can you expect Sasuke, a teenage nin to compare with adult ninjas who have been alive for nearly twice as long as he has, It's a complement comparing him to them in the first place. Itachi gave sasuke his sharingan techs, you can't expext Sasuke to surpass him overnight. Kakashi developed Raikiri on his own and has been using it alot longer than Sasuke. This thread aint bashing Itachi Jr, I was expecting mixed oppinions.

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Sasuke's > Kakashi's

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Yeah. He really wanted to advance the "let me be all freaky like a snake" technique.

It's because Sasuke hasn't had an excellent sensei as far as jutsu. He's mostly self-taught in a lot of his endeavors, something that he had long exceeded Naruto and Sakura in. Learning the Uchiha fireball technique before he graduated the Academy, developing his variations on chidori, Ameterasu, Susanoo.

Isn't that enough?

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Fucking Naruto and Sakura have taken technqiues from their sensei's and advanced them better than they did. What about Sauske?
Sasuke Surpassed Itachi in Ameterasu Usage. And Will most likely surpass him in sharingan genjutsu aswell. Anyway, lets stay on topic.

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This is retarded. Kakashi developed the ninjutsu and had been using it since Sasuke's age as a jonin. He later developed Raikiri, which is S-rank, while Chidori is A-rank. Clearly, Kakashi's is better. It's the same jutsu, but at different levels and different names pretty much.

Read the manga.

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This is retarded. Kakashi developed the ninjutsu and had been using it since Sasuke's age as a jonin. He later developed Raikiri, which is S-rank, while Chidori is A-rank. Clearly, Kakashi's is better. It's the same jutsu, but at different levels and different names pretty much.

Read the manga.
Exacly there are the same information on the databook.Raikiri a S-rank improved version of A-rank Chidori.

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Exacly there are the same information on the databook.Raikiri a S-rank improved version of A-rank Chidori.
But this thread is for comparing the VARIANTS that they have both created, I think it's pretty obvious in terms of power Kakashi's Raikiri takes it.

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Sasuke have Chidori Needles,Chidori Current and Chidori Sharp Spear and Kakashi have Lighting Clone and Lighting Hunt i think he show a jutsu similar to Sasuke's Chidori current so i think Kakashi variants are also more powerfull.

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Yeah. He really wanted to advance the "let me be all freaky like a snake" technique.

It's because Sasuke hasn't had an excellent sensei as far as jutsu. He's mostly self-taught in a lot of his endeavors, something that he had long exceeded Naruto and Sakura in. Learning the Uchiha fireball technique before he graduated the Academy, developing his variations on chidori, Ameterasu, Susanoo.

Isn't that enough?
Yeah, having to learn ninjutsu from Orochimaru - probably the guy who knew the most ninjutsu in the world - Sasuke really had no help in the ninjutsu department

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Exactly. Look all that good "all that ninjutsu" did for Orochimaru?

And for Sasuke?

It's pointless, it was a random ambition Orochimaru had, for purposes of fighting, why would you ever use anything other than your elemental affinity? Just so you have more ridiculous fodder mud clones to show on the anime?

Now if Orochimaru was teaching him nothing but kinjutsu, then we have a slightly different story, because that was Oro's specialty, but...

1. Why expand on jutsus that aren't powerful compared to variants of one's own affinity

2. Why would Oro be teaching Sasuke all these powerful techniques to help him overcome Orochimaru, when it's clear that Sasuke has essentially learned no new jutsus from Orochimaru

All of Sasuke's ninjutsu has been based off his own customizations to the chidori and LOLSHARINGAN.

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But this thread is for comparing the VARIANTS that they have both created, I think it's pretty obvious in terms of power Kakashi's Raikiri takes it.
Kakashi's Raikiri wolf is stronger than any of Sasuke's Chidori variants, as it is S-rank.

And Kakashi said he can copy spatial composition up to the A-rank level during the Wind Training arc (when Yamato is explaining elements, I think), so any Chidori variant Sasuke could use Kakashi could copy, except maybe Nagashi from his body.

The only other Raiton Sasuke has over Kakashi is Kirin.. which is lightning.. which Kakashi cut in half with Raikiri. Plus Kakashi has Raiton kagebunshin.

On paper Kakashi is the better raiton user, Sasuke just uses them more.

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Where Sasuke took his chidori variations to a higher level, Kakashi has more skill when using it. Just look at when he "killed" Kakuzu the first time, that was just pure skill.

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^ he was lying in wait. That was pure opportunity. Any ninja should be able to.

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Where Sasuke took his chidori variations to a higher level, Kakashi has more skill when using it. Just look at when he "killed" Kakuzu the first time, that was just pure skill.
Its was a sneak attack that has nothing to do with the power of his lighting ninjutsu.

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I typically favor Kakashi too.

Sasuke uses this all the time - I actually think it's his most versital jutsu. I was amazed that he cut right through eight tail's tentacle like that. He's fast to fall back on this jutsu.

They both use it in extremely interesting ways, but it's Kakashi's jutsu and he never fails to impress.

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