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Why Naruto is a bad character
Originally Posted by ch1p
There is a problem with it.
Hashirama actually thought about the problem deeply, thought of answers for it, and finally tested them. Even if Hashirama didn't solve the problem, the truth is from the story's POV, Hashirama thought of a plan, designed said plan, and implemented it.
In contrast, Naruto has not thought about the problem much, he just goes with the flow. To make things worse, Naruto has a naive conception of it. First, Naruto has not lived through multiple wars and its consequences (he has yet to live through his first). Second, Naruto has yet to suffer considerable loss, because while Jiraiya and Neji are great losses, they are not what makes the cycle of hatred turn. Third, he does not understand these people's reasons for hatred at all. He does not understand what's like to have a village destroyed and live through it (Nagato pissed on that development), he does not understand what's like to see all your loved ones die (Sasuke), he has no clue whatsoever what's like to lose hope (Madara, Obito).In tandem with not thinking about the problem much, he obviously has no semblance of plan whatsoever.
If Naruto solves this problem as things are, it's going to be because he's the main character and only because he's the main character. (sidenote: There is a difference between a character accomplishing stuff and because of that he's a main character, and a main character suffices and that's why he accomplishes stuff. The former is what makes a hero, the latter is what makes a dumbass with author support.). He hasn't thought about it, he doesn't have a plan, and he has no clue how to tackle this matter.
At this point, the more that we can aim at for Naruto solving shit is a contrived solution. It's gonna suck because it has had no background whatsoever (explained above). Which was all fine and dandy when Naruto was just a kid making a name for himself, you know. However, from the moment he has this type of mission attached to him, to end the cycle of hatred and the wars and whatever else, there are certain expectations of his character. Expectations that are not being met and don't seem like they're going to be met. And it's not like Naruto is rejecting the mission to be the chosen one, which then there wouldn't be any problem with Naruto not accomplishing anything or accomplishing something by total fluke. No Naruto's fucking embracing it and yet, he doesn't think about it, he doesn't plan, he does nothing. To repeat myself, he just goes with the plot. There is no substance to his mission.
Like I said before, Naruto was a much better hero in part I. He did not have the destiny bullshit attached to him, he was just a kid making a name for himself, and all of his TnJ had a basic, but solid base. So unless Kishimoto pulls the rabbit out of the arse and makes it a joined effort between his friends, this is not going to end well. Of course you and others who don't think about it too deeply will love it as long as Naruto gets what he wants and sure, this is a manga for 12 year olds, but srly if Kishimoto can make a plot for Hashirama regarding this in two damn flashback chapters, how could he not have touched upon this in 623 chapters of the manga for his main character?
During the rooftop battle between the 4th and Orochimaru, Sarutobi said that 'nothing good ever comes out of messing with time" [or something along those lines], so I doubt any of the fallen characters will return. After all, they did die as martyrs, so it was a good ending for them.
If anything he could atleast try to find a way to get the four Hokages out of the Death God, Its sickening to think that 4 noble warriors were put into eternal damnation because some douches don't know how to act right. Madara indirectly forced Minato there, while Orochimaru forced Hiruzen to seal himself in there along with the long dead 1st and 2nd hokage.