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Old 02-15-2009, 01:56 AM   #1
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Old 02-15-2009, 01:58 AM   #2
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Shika, Ino & Chouji win. Shika knows every move Asuma will do.

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Old 02-15-2009, 01:58 AM   #3
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I'll have to go with InoShikaCho, it wouldn't be hard for Shikamaru to use shadow possesion and Ino uses Mind transfer to win.

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Old 02-15-2009, 05:18 AM   #4
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Asuma takes it.

Shika`s shadows arent fast enough as long Asuma doesnt stand still, and he equally knows how his students think and react. Hes better in nearly every department.

And well, basically, after Shika is out cold, the other two wont take long.

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Old 02-15-2009, 10:43 AM   #5
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asuma loses.while he has to dodge all 3 of them(shika's shadow,choji's roll,and ino's mind possesion)eventually one will get him

it will probobly be shikamaru that catches him,then choji lands one very powerful hit to finish him.


even if asuma uses jutsu,he may only beat down ino or choji.

however alone asuma>>>>all these guys

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Old 02-15-2009, 10:56 AM   #6
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Asuma's done for. Asuma is a pretty good shinobi, but Shikamaru is no man to mess with, no matter how skilled you are.

Shikamaru has a plan for battle any way it hits him, and with Ino's mind abilities/healing abilities, and Choji's human boulder, expansion/food pills, I don't see how they can lose this.

Shikamaru can use Choji's boulder or expansion to keep Asuma on his toes, Choji gets Asuma to land just where Shikamaru wants him to, Shikamaru successfully lands a shadow possession, allowing Ino to finish it with mind transfer.

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Shika solos with prep time.

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Overkill in favor of the students.

Shikamaru has knowledge of Asuma, so he can devise a plan very quickly. I could see Shikamaru soloing Asuma with difficulty.

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Ino-chan solo!
no really, shikamaru wins on his own! Asuma sensei is no big feat! Goooo team Ino!

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Shika is only nearly unbeatable with prep, not a head on battle, and without a single one of them being as fast as Asuma is, i find somewhat exagerated the credit the team is given against the guy who teached them.

Ino, especially, being the weak link she is, will be out in no time. She only uses one jutsu, and she will likely be the first to be targeted given the nature of said jutsu.

Mind you, i can see any team of the rookies, stealing some wins against each teacher, especially with the numbers game, but hardly the majority. The teachers will always have the main advantages of knowing each of theyre students as well, and having better abilities than each one of them, to begin with.

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no really, shikamaru wins on his own! Asuma sensei is no big feat! Goooo team Ino!
Shika whinning a head-on match against his sensei alone? No way hes that good.

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Shika is only nearly unbeatable with prep, not a head on battle, and without a single one of them being as fast as Asuma is, i find somewhat exagerated the credit the team is given against the guy who teached them.

Ino, especially, being the weak link she is, will be out in no time. She only uses one jutsu, and she will likely be the first to be targeted given the nature of said jutsu.

Mind you, i can see any team of the rookies, stealing some wins against each teacher, especially with the numbers game, but hardly the majority. The teachers will always have the main advantages of knowing each of theyre students as well, and having better abilities than each one of them, to begin with.



Shika whinning a head-on match against his sensei alone? No way hes that good.
Ino is no weak link! you are crazy!

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Asuma takes it.

Shika`s shadows arent fast enough as long Asuma doesnt stand still, and he equally knows how his students think and react. Hes better in nearly every department.

And well, basically, after Shika is out cold, the other two wont take long.
Shikamaru is a genius it wouldn't be hard for him to come up with a plan to catch Asuma in it and then it's over. Also Shikamaru has surpassed Asuma as the new generation surpassing the old so Shika could probably solo.

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Old 02-16-2009, 12:37 AM   #13
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Ino isn't weak. :\

All three of them have strengths and weaknesses. Asuma, IMO, is the worst teacher in terms of fighting ability of the 4 Jounin. Shikamaru could solo.

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Ino is no weak link! you are crazy!
Of the whole team? Shes the one that grew up less in terms of power and efficiency.

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Ino isn't weak. :\.
Please read what i wrote, properly.

I didnt called her "weak". I said she was the weak "link" of this team.

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Asuma, IMO, is the worst teacher in terms of fighting ability of the 4 Jounin. Shikamaru could solo.
And you got so offended by what you misread that you type something so incorrect as this?

Really, even if i didnt belived by what i have read in the Manga, that Asuma wasent overall above Base Gai (wich i do, for the record), there is is simply no way he would be below Kurenai, both in power and figthing ability, to begin with.

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Shikamaru is a genius it wouldn't be hard for him to come up with a plan to catch Asuma in it and then it's over.
His intelect works best when hes got time to study and prep against his opponent. Badly for him, Asuma belongs to a group of nin who is cleary faster than he is, and knows how he operates.

I wont say they cant take some wins, but with the exception of team 7, the other teams havent displayed overall power to surpass and decisivly defeat the senseis. And thats only because team 7, are the protagonists of this manga, and are the ones who are written with the biggest power increases, and at a faster rate than nearly anyone else.

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Also Shikamaru has surpassed Asuma as the new generation surpassing the old so Shika could probably solo.
Thats something wich meaning is so subjective and vague that i dont feel is worth actually mentioning in a battle thread.

Really, how many nin have surpassed the 1rst Hokage, just because they belong to a younger generation?


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I'm assuming no Prep for Shika which causes his team to lose quite quickly. Asuma simply outclasses his students in terms of strength and his wind powered jutsu.

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ShikaInoCho wins this one, Shika will out manuever Asuma w the help of his teamates pretty easily, w/ Choji landing the winning blow as Asuma stands lifeless because of SHikas shadow bind

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I'm assuming no Prep for Shika which causes his team to lose quite quickly. Asuma simply outclasses his students in terms of strength and his wind powered jutsu.
Thats my take. Team 7 is the exception, not the norm.

Give Shika prep, however, and the song plays another tune. His prep is the big x factor.

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Thats my take. Team 7 is the exception, not the norm.

Give Shika prep, however, and the song plays another tune. His prep is the big x factor.
I thought this was Team 10?

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InoShikaCho.

Though Shikamaru is best with prep time, he is capable of thinking on his feet. Ino isn't useless, she's a medic nin now, so that extends their survivability in this fight. Choji is very useful in this fight, as giant Choji is a problem for "normal" ninja. That could distract Asuma long enough either for Shikamaru to develop a foolproof strategy (which shouldn't take long as he's extremely familiar with the target), or for him to trap him in a shadow.

As we haven't seen Asuma in a lot of fights, it's difficult to get the full breadth of his abilities, but what we've seen doesn't hand him the victory here.

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His intelect works best when hes got time to study and prep against his opponent. Badly for him, Asuma belongs to a group of nin who is cleary faster than he is, and knows how he operates.
Also Shikamaru knows how Asuma operates so he will be able to outsmart him.
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I wont say they cant take some wins, but with the exception of team 7, the other teams havent displayed overall power to surpass and decisivly defeat the senseis. And thats only because team 7, are the protagonists of this manga, and are the ones who are written with the biggest power increases, and at a faster rate than nearly anyone else.
I believe Shikamaru showed this when fighting Hidan, of course he had prep time and knowledge but Asuma pretty much only has his fuuton blades to fight which he will eventually be caught by kage mane(shadow posseion) while Ino uses Mind Transfer to kill him or Choji uses a human boulder to kill him while he is caught in the shadow.

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Really, how many nin have surpassed the 1rst Hokage, just because they belong to a younger generation?
It depends if your one of those people who think Shodai>the narutoverse then there is no hope for this but I'll try The only glimpse of Shodai's power was the Edo Tensei version which I think is equal to the real one, maybe slightly stronger since he has emotions and can have battle strategies. As shown Sandaime has surpassed him. Minato, Jiraiya, Orochimaru, Pain, the list goes on the hightiers are much different than the ones back then as Madara is much stronger than the Madara back then, I mean why wouldn't he be when he had 100 years of extra time to get stronger.

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