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Old 01-03-2009, 11:22 PM   #1
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Default Pein Vs. Orochimaru (Full out)

This would be full out. (Not including Pein's MASSIVE "Shinra Tensei".) or Orochimaru's "Edo Tensei"

Location: Valley of the End. (Why not. :D)

They have no prep-time before the battle.


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Old 01-03-2009, 11:25 PM   #2
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Orochimaru uses Edo Tensei and resurects Sandaime, Itachi, and Jiraiya(since we have seen them fight) to win.

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Old 01-03-2009, 11:35 PM   #3
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Orochimaru uses Edo Tensei and resurects Sandaime, Itachi, and Jiraiya(since we have seen them fight) to win.
Edo tensei takes prep-time and sacrifices. Assuming that neither is available for this battle, Pein has this in the bag.

Besides Jiraya in HM (who powerwise is around Oro's level) couldn't defeat Pein who didn't show shinra tensei, so I don't see how Oro will be able to defeat Pein either.

1. If Oro uses massive barrage of lesser snake summons (and Manda), animal Pein can use his/her own version of summon barrage

2. Oro fire any raw jutsu (like the wind jutsu in forrest of death), fat pein absorbs it

3. Unlike Jiraya, who had the support of two extremely useful toads analyzing the battle and firing jutsus at the same time, Oro has no such luxury (maybe with manda helping him if manda himself doesn't get taken out)

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Old 01-03-2009, 11:39 PM   #4
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So its 5/6ths of Pain vs fully loaded Oro lol?

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Old 01-03-2009, 11:41 PM   #5
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Edo tensei takes prep-time and sacrifices. Assuming that neither is available for this battle, Pein has this in the bag.
Prep time needs to be stated or not to be continued.

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Old 01-03-2009, 11:55 PM   #6
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Sorry. I meant the MASSIVE shinra tensei. And no prep-time. The were just strolling through the forest. ;P

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Old 01-04-2009, 12:03 AM   #8
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Sorry. I meant the MASSIVE shinra tensei. And no prep-time. The were just strolling through the forest. ;P

OK but I still think Orochimaru wins because he is extremely hard to kill and he could out last long enough to figure out Pain's secrets and figure out a way to win, probably in the form of Yamata.

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Old 01-04-2009, 12:08 AM   #9
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pein would win, but i think that oro would put up a really good fight. he'd do better than jiraiya did....

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Old 01-04-2009, 12:20 AM   #10
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The fight would be good, but I feel that pain would win. With Pains abilities to revive dead bodies, spam summons, afect gravity, pull souls out of the body, lazers, bombs, and various other attacks and bodies that can see from all sides I feel would be to much of a force. Like Oro summons a giant 8 headed snake and then Pain summons a giant 8 headed dog. Oro regenerate his body and Pain revives his bodies. Oro will eventually be exhausted and lose because of such.

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Old 01-04-2009, 12:50 AM   #11
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pein would rape oro big time... even if oro could use edo tensei, pein could just drag the souls out. pein has a conter for everyone of oros moves. if jiraiya cant beat pein, oro cant either. pein rapes...

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Old 01-04-2009, 12:54 AM   #12
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pein would rape oro big time... even if oro could use edo tensei, pein could just drag the souls out. pein has a conter for everyone of oros moves. if jiraiya cant beat pein, oro cant either. pein rapes...
Orochimaru is not Jiraiya, I think he is better suited for this fight than Jiraiya was.

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Old 01-04-2009, 12:57 AM   #13
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Orochimaru is not Jiraiya, I think he is better suited for this fight than Jiraiya was.
yea but like i said earlier, pein can counter most of oros techniques, edo tensei with soul stealing or hell realms move. hydra technique with peins summon body... he probably wont even be able to touch god realm pein.

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Old 01-04-2009, 01:09 AM   #14
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yea but like i said earlier, pein can counter most of oros techniques, edo tensei with soul stealing or hell realms move. hydra technique with peins summon body... he probably wont even be able to touch god realm pein.
Maybe counter most but not all. Hydra could take out any amount of summons Pain does since it is not stronger and not a sumon but an S-rank ninjutsu. If Oro loses it would be against Deva after taking out the other 5, but I still think he would win and am sticking with it.

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The Facts:

- Orochimaru
With prep-time invaded Konoha with an army, but lost the fight and his arms.

- Pain
Invaded Konoha by himself on a whim and completely wiped it off the map with relative ease.

That should be a good indicator on who'd win this fight.

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Old 01-04-2009, 01:41 AM   #16
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Pain wins, In review of the fact i think he would actually do worse that Jiraiya. Jiraiya immense stamina was one of the only reasons Pain couldn't overwelm him. Thus causing the stalemate we saw.

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Old 01-04-2009, 01:51 AM   #17
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The Facts:

- Orochimaru
With prep-time invaded Konoha with an army, but lost the fight and his arms.

- Pain
Invaded Konoha by himself on a whim and completely wiped it off the map with relative ease.

That should be a good indicator on who'd win this fight.
He lost for being careless and he was fight Sandaime who is extremely strong. Pain did not invade by himself, 6 bodies. Oro had a fodder army. Just because Pain did a better job invading doesn't mean he automatically wins.

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Old 01-04-2009, 01:58 AM   #18
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I actually think Pain would take this fight pretty quickly, assuming the full Rikudou is out. If Pain fights the way he fought Jiraiya, then yeah, this may take a while, but with all six bodies, he has multiple ways of bringing the white serpent to his knees. Oro's simply outnumbered and outclassed. He will be blitzed and attacked by all six, who will proceed to fill him with black chakra rods like a pincushion, soul-rip the shit out of him, rocket fist him, Force Choke him, etc. This is one of those rare cases where the opponent has such overwhelming authority in this battle that Orochimaru can't do anything to save himself in time. Despite his tenacity, things don't look too good for him.

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Old 01-04-2009, 02:34 AM   #19
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I actually think Pain would take this fight pretty quickly, assuming the full Rikudou is out. If Pain fights the way he fought Jiraiya, then yeah, this may take a while, but with all six bodies, he has multiple ways of bringing the white serpent to his knees. Oro's simply outnumbered and outclassed. He will be blitzed and attacked by all six, who will proceed to fill him with black chakra rods like a pincushion, soul-rip the shit out of him, rocket fist him, Force Choke him, etc. This is one of those rare cases where the opponent has such overwhelming authority in this battle that Orochimaru can't do anything to save himself in time. Despite his tenacity, things don't look too good for him.
I think this is one of the very few times we have disagreed.

Don't forget Orochimaru is a lot smarter than Jiraiya(not saying he's dumb) and pretty much Orochimaru=Jiraiya so I see it going kind of similar to the Jiraiya vs. Pain fight except Oro would probably make better decisions and figure out Pain's secret quicker therefore figuring out a way to win.

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I'd go for Pain on this one. If Sasuke can beat Orochimaru and Pain can beat Jiraiya, then I think Pain can beat Orochimaru. Not easily though.

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