12-16-2008, 04:38 AM
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Is Sasuke evil?
Yes, I have to say that he is evil.
Sasuke has done a lot of morally wrong things in this series.
He has let himself become consumed by hatred and vengeance especially against Itachi. Kakashi was right in saying revenge doesn't lead to anything but misery and emptyness but let Sasuke choose to go down that path.
I can sorta understand why Sasuke wants revenge but I don't get why he feels he has to do it alone.
Naruto and both Saukra have offered to help with him his revenge against Itachi but he rejected them in a very harsh way imo.
Naruto did say that he feel like Sasuke was a brother to him but all he got in return was attempted murder by Sasuke in thier part one end fight.
Sakukra did tell Sasuke that he she loved him and even offered to go with him and even help out Sasuke against Itachi but all she got was punch in the face.
I don't really like the way that Sasuke has treated his friends.
Boith Saskura and Naruto where right trying to stop Sasuke doing a terrible choice by going to Oro.
Yes going to Oro was a bad choice since Oro wanted to take over Sasuke's body and destroy Konhona later. Oro even stated those intentions himself.
Its a freinds duty to point to another friend, to stop them making a terrible decision that they may regret for making thier the of thier lives. That what one of the points of being a friend is.
But Sasuke rejected his friends warnings all for the sake of his petty revenge and because of his poor choice he put everyone in danger because of his terrible error in judgement.
Thats why I don't like Sasuke to be honest because he is selfish and very narrow minded and doesn't really care for others, even the ones that where closest to him.
To people who say that Naruto is selfish, no he is not, he is more selfless than anything. Selfish people only care only about themselves.
Naruto was trying to save Sasuke from making a bad choice in order to protect him.
Sure Naruto could have done easy thing and not try to save Sasuke and get on with his life. But Naruto himself did say that he does not deserve to become Hokage if could not save his friend.
That is how much Naruto values their friendship and cares for Sasuke. He doesn’t think he could live with himself if he lets S asuke die or whatever.
The same thing goes with Sakura too, that is how much she cares for Sasuke as well.
That is one of the central points of the manga – the friendship between Naruto, Sasuke and Sakura.
As for Itachi, yes he is responsible for a lot of Sasuke's pain and is maybe the reason why Sasuke is the way he is now in the manga.
However that does not absolve Sasuke too. Since its Sasuke’s own choices that have made him the way he is.
Sasuke did not have to let himself become consumed with hatred and and anger and choose a path of revenge. At any time he could have let go of his hate and try to live a normal life.
Sasuke did not have to go to Oro, even if he still wanted revenge against Itachi – he could have tried talking to the Hokage and get justice that way but he did not.
He could have tried talking to his friends – Naruto and Saukura about the whole Itachi stuff instead of keeping his feelings bottled up but he did not instead of acting by himself. His friends where even willing to help with Itachi but the sad thing is that Sasuke never even considered that option.
Even if he felt that he still had to leave the village, he could have gone anywhere else else but to Oro, but Sasuke did not think and and consider any alternatives.
Sasuke did not have to try to murder Naruto. He should have realised that Naruto was only trying to help him, If Sasuke though really long and hard about it, he could have known that going to Oro was as going to be one of the worst mistakes of his life. But Sasuke has let his own desire for revenge cloud his judgement.
After Itachi’s death, Sasuke could have finally let go of his anger and hatred but again he chooses not.. He could have let go of his anger and hatred instead of listening to Madara’s probable lies and this time time directing his anger at Konoha.
He did not have to attack Killer Bee but he choose too. Even after listening to Akatsuki’s views, he could have walked away and followed a different path in life instead of letting himself be influenced by Madara.
I could go on on and about this with some more examples if I wanted too but I think you all see my point.
At nearly every important choice in his life so far, Sasuke has choosen poorly and/or wrongly, without hardly ever considering what the consequences of his could choices could be.
Also don’t give that crap that Sasuke had no choice, For that is a lie, a lie even to yourself.
Everybody has choices in life, so you should think long and hard and hard about the consequnences of those choices could lead too.
What I am trying to say is , a lot of Sasuke’s poor choices have lead him to put himself in uncessary danger and cause his friends a lot of pain and and anguish- more specifically Naruto and Sakura, the ones that care about him the most.
Sasuke has only really made two good choices so far. The first being to spare Naruto’s life. The second being for him to finally forgive Itachi.
All the other choices have been bad because Sasuke has let his bad emotions ie, anger, hate, jealously, etc cloud his judgement. Instead of being calm, collected and somewhat objective when making the choices that could effect his life forever.
You know a choice can still bee be bad even if you think you are doing it for all the right reasons. Which is ecatly the case for Sasuke, he did not think long and hard enough enough about what the conseqences of his coices could lead too.
Heck twice he has almost paid the ultimate price of these bad choices.
First off in part 1, Oro would have defintely taken over Sasuke's body where it for Naruto and the others delaying the Sound 5 guys long enough to get to Oro. Those delays forced Oro to switch over to another body and not Sasuke as he so wanted to.
So Sasuke was ironically saved by his friends and some luck by not being taken over by Oro then.
Secondly, remember the Itachi battle, the remants of Oro did come out of his body and completely consumed Sasuke.
Where it not for Itachi killing Oro's possession of himi, Sasuke again would have ultimately paid the the ultimate price for his bad choices.
Sasuke is heading down a path of self destruction, without possibly realisng what he is doing. That is why I believe that both Sakura and Naruto are right from trying to save their friend from a path of self destruction.
Also Sasuke is a killer. After all he did kill Deidara, Oro and Itachi.
I don't care whether or not if it was in self defense or not.
The bottom line is that neither Itachi and Deidara are not alive anymore and nothing can bring them back.
Also Sasuke didn't show any remorse for kiling Deidara. Also didn't have shown any remorse for killing Itachi either until Madara revealed the truth about his brother.
Sasuke sure has hell did not show any regret or remorse trying to kill Naruto and Killer Bee. It doesn't matter if he tried to capture Killer Bee at first and then later changed his mind about killing Naruto. The fact that he tried to kill both of them is very damning in itself.
The fact that he didn't succeed doesn't change the matter. His intents was to murder in both cases.
Also later in part 2 when Naruto encounters Sasuke again in Oro's lair, Sasuke again tries to kill him. Where it not for ironically Kabuto's and Oro's suggestion to let Naruto live so he can hunt down some Akatsuki members, Sasuke would have killed Naruto where it not for that.
Sorry for the long post but I felt I had to get that off my chest.
There, I posted up more or less all the reasons why I consider him to be an evil character.
12-16-2008, 10:20 AM
Join Date: Jul 2008
Sasuke is not evil just misguided. He still has natural kindness in him as he refuses to kill fodder, team 7 flashback and his refusal to leave Karin behind.
Originally Posted by BGtymin
Kishi obviously doesn't know what he is going with Sasuke. First he wanted to restore his clan and kill Itachi. Then he totally forget about the restoring clan part. Then he found out Itachi was good and moves on to killing the entire village.
Sasuke will revive the clan his own way as he told to Madara.
The most confusing thing is he didn't want help from people like Naruto and Sakura, who were actual competent ninjas and instead puts together a rag tag group to help him. Why the fuck would you want a shit team like Taka when you can have team 7?
Yes I ma sure Sasuke woudl ask help fro mthe guy who threatened to break everyone his in body to bring him back. Also Sakura assaulted him as well.
Why should Sasuke think they woudl want to help him.
Also taka is not shit.
Cause Sasuke could have stayed in Konoha and gotten a chance to kill Itachi, Itachi was part of a group that Konoha was fighting against.
He left Konoha because he need gain power faster because the gap between Itachi and Sasuke has not become less over the years.