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Remember the 40yr old coach who married his 16yr old student? They're back...
Bolivia | Sporting a dress shirt and his wedding ring, 40-year-old Brenton Wuchae sat next to his jeans-clad teenage wife in a Brunswick County courtroom. A few rows behind them, her parents sat silently alongside their attorney.
While in the county courthouse, Dennis and Betty Hager did not exchange a word with their daughter, now known as Windy Wuchae. The 16-year-old had filed a claim to get back several items her parents kept when she moved out, including a Beanie Babies collection valued at $300. She failed.
Minutes into the hearing Wednesday morning, Magistrate Deborah Ramphal dismissed the case, telling the Wuchaes they had the right to appeal. The Wuchaes and Hagers, who all live in Oak Island, then left as quietly as they had arrived, refusing to talk to reporters.
"The case was dismissed as a matter of law because all of the items belong to her parents," the Hagers' attorney, Robert Tatum, said after the hearing.
The Wuchaes chose to represent themselves, turning down the magistrate's recommendation that they use an attorney. Wuchae, who went from coaching Windy at South Brunswick High School to becoming her friend and then husband over the course of several months, remained by her side throughout the hearing. He showed the magistrate receipts, along with pictures of her holding a freshly caught fish and the same fish mounted and hung on a wall.
Wuchae said Windy's father had paid $500, and he chipped in $22 to have the fish mounted for her as a birthday present.
"A gift is the intention of the giver at that time," Wuchae said.
Windy wanted the mounted fish back, along with her stuffed animals, a sculpture and a PlayStation game system, a total value of $1,072.50. She had been collecting the Beanie Babies, gifts from her parents and friends, for the past four years, she told the magistrate. She said she tried to get the items from her parents outside of court but couldn't.
Tatum said case law establishes that a minor's property and earnings belong to the minor's parents if obtained before emancipation. That was the case with Windy, since she was given all her gifts before getting married, he said.
And with that, the magistrate dismissed the case.
"They're having a rough time," Tatum said of the Hagers. "They didn't want to be here today, but they were afraid the items wouldn't be available to her later on, that they (the Wuchaes) might sell the items."
Dennis Hager has said Windy is welcome back home - without her husband - and that he hopes she will return.
Tatum said the Hagers have seen their daughter a few times since they signed a consent form allowing her to marry Wuchae two months ago. The Hagers have said they decided to give in only after trying long and hard to keep Windy away from Wuchae and not succeeding, their daughter having come to hate them.
But despite the tension with the Hagers and the massive publicity their marriage has generated, the Wuchaes have remained local. They live less than two miles from the Hager residence in Oak Island.
They also work together now. Chuck Oswalt, assistant manager at Oak Island's Food Lion, confirmed Wednesday that both are employed at the grocery store.
Wuchae resigned from his job as teacher and coach for Brunswick County Schools on June 18, the same day he married Windy. After also dealing with its own share of negative publicity, the county school system revealed it had given Wuchae a choice to resign or be fired after he disobeyed a directive to stay away from Windy.
The Hagers, who once allowed Wuchae to hang out with Windy, had gone to the police and school officials with phone bills showing e-mail and late-night text messages being exchanged by the coach and their daughter.
But school officials had earlier said lack of evidence kept the coach from being fired; instead, he was suspended with pay on May 3, standard procedure for cases under investigation.
"A phone bill - is that not written evidence?" Dennis Hager said in June. "What kind of evidence did they need?"
Like Windy, the Hagers have sought legal action, but against the school system.
They sued the county's Board of Education on July 10, accusing officials of failing to discipline the coach and keep him away from their daughter.
Days later, they filed a similar lawsuit against the coach's previous employer, the Guilford County Board of Education, claiming it knew of the coach's inappropriate conduct with female students and still kept him employed.
The school boards have yet to file responses to the lawsuits, which seek monetary compensation in excess of $10,000 for each count of causing "emotional pain and suffering" and "willful and wanton conduct."
In the past girls generally married at that age, commonly with men that age, and the marriages worked fine. Girls divorce not because of their age, but because they're taught by people like you that it's okay and they should over every little thing. The consequences continue to escalate and destroy this civilization.
my god i dont believe in divorce but thank GOD i didnt marry the guy i was in love with at 16
he was an internet predator and he was about fifty even though he told me he was 25
maybe you should think about that
i say the guy was grooming here and that he will divorce her because he only likes young girls and once she gets olderand/or has a baby he isnt going to be attracted to her any more
and remember that most people who married when it was common to marry at 16 didnt do it for "love" they did it for money or politics or familthey worked it out because they had to.
now men or women who marry someone so much younger do it because thats what they are attaracted to
when was the last time you had a longer convo with someone under 17?
im sorry but most of them are idiots especaially the girls and its not them its their age. i know some of you are that age or younger and your gunna tell me "like OMG allllllll my friends and my 21 yr old boyfriend tell me how smart and mature i am and how i dont sound like im 16 AT ALZ"
and i am going to tell you that in ten years your going to look back and say "OMG i was such an idiot at that age....thank god i didnt marry my 21 yr old boyfriend"
no one ever looks back at high school nd remembers how smart and funny and mature they were....thats not how it works
Why are they bothering to keep the items away from her? It isn't like things like her beanie baby collect are going to make their daughter leave her husband and return home. All it is doing is making the process more unbearable for all involved.
If there's a will there's a way. Marrying for love is overrated. Real marriage is based on blind, driven commitment that just doesn't care when/if it sucks. That's why arranged marriages have a hugely higher success rate. Your guy lied to you and is therefore a bad example. But imagine if you were sixteen and married, couldn't you have been careful to NOT change and AVOID changing so that you could stay compatible? Surely you have a choice in how your love matures and develops. Every girl has a choice how she keeps her living love alight.
arranged marriages worked alot because they felt no commitment to each other except to to publicly embarrass each other.
marriage is also about compromise but compromise isnt refusing to change but changing in a way that makes you closer to one another.
so he doesnt like it when i talk on my cell phone and drive?
make him drive and i still talk on my cell phone