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Old 07-23-2007, 03:24 AM   #1
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:04 AM   #2
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This was discussed before at some length but it's been a while so I'll go ahead and throw in my two cents.

Does Gin love Matsumoto? I don't think he loves her in the... normal sense of the word. We all know Gin is not a normal person, anyway -- his emotions and intentions are all veiled in mystery by that fox-face expression and his casual, sneaky behavior. And, yet, the only time that I've seen his face express something sincere was the time when he was leaving for Hueco Mundo, and he looked back to Rangiku and said simply "I'm sorry." For all that he did, the last thing you'd expect is for him to be apologetic about anything.

I believe that Gin's feelings for Matsumoto are strong enough to the point that he does not truly wish harm upon her. True, he did set Kira up to fight Hitsugaya and Matsumoto if the need arose, but even to Aizen, Gin referred to Izuru as a mere "distraction." I think he knew that Kira would not be able to stand up to the likes of Matsumoto, but needed him to buy him as much time as possible to keep Matsumoto away.

As for his behavior of waltzing in and out of her life, I believe that while he cares for Matsumoto, I think he wants to keep her away at a safe distance so he could never hurt her or use her for his grand scheme. It might be a little too much speculation on my part, but it does make sense (or at least to me). Think about it, the others that had been closely associated with him (excluding Aizen of course) were hurt and/or used by him. However, when faced with Matsumoto, it seems as if he either:
1) Runs away (such as the case when she intercepted Shinsou's attack during the fight with Hitsugaya or all the times we've been told he walks out on her),
2) Confuses her (not telling her why he keeps leaving, speaking to her kind of sarcastically when he left "If only you could have held onto me longer...")
3) or, speaks with what little sincerity he has. ("I'm sorry," or as he sings in the musical "Thank you for everything and goodbye")

In conclusion I believe that Gin does harbor feelings akin to love for Matsumoto. He so damned eccentric, however, and is not capable of loving her as a man should. Tragically Matsumoto does care about him enough to the point that his behavior leaves her emotionally wounded and confused. The lyrics to the character song "Fuyu no Hanabi" describe it perfectly:

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Rangiku: You're always disappearing without informing where you're going, Why?
Both: Only at that time, you think it
Rangiku: It's a bad habit of yours
Only sometimes do you show your real smile
What are you trying to do to me?

Both: Where do you want to go? What do you want to be?
Rangiku: Are you only afraid of being loved?
Gin: Only a little bit more you could have got me
It's too bad
Rangiku: I can't believe it

Gin: The day you met me was your birthday
It's okay that if I didn't know that, isn't it?
Rangiku: I loathe that part of you
It's a bad habit of yours
That phrase almost drives me to tears with its echo
just like winter fireworks

Both: Where do you want to go? What do you want to be?
Rangiku: An abandoned cat picked up just to be abandoned again
Both: If you can't be held then just let it be
Rangiku: In the end it's always
Gin: I'm sorry
Rangiku: I feel like an idiot

Both: Where do you want to go? What do you want to be?
Rangiku: Are you only afraid of being loved?
Gin: Only a little bit more you could have got me
It's too bad
Rangiku: It can't be cured, can it?
Winter fireworks
Winter fireworks
Winter fireworks...


I think this the same argument as I made before, too. Maybe there'll be more input from others this time.

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Old 07-23-2007, 01:56 PM   #3
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Does loving her tits count?

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Old 07-24-2007, 12:30 PM   #4
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I think he did love her when they weren't at soul society, he did took her in and fed her.

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Old 07-24-2007, 12:41 PM   #5
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He had damn better.

Gin did seem genuinely sorry to leave Rangiku in Soul Society, and from that, I'm thinking he's worried about remaining with her too long. Maybe it would've put her in more danger than he let on? He does care about her, and seeing as they're both adult Shinigami, they probably had some sort of love affair going on.

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Old 07-24-2007, 05:20 PM   #6
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That would be such a odd couple.

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Old 07-25-2007, 02:58 AM   #7
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I think he kinda does. It was sad when he left her to go do evil deeds I'm not 100% sure though

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Old 07-25-2007, 03:34 AM   #8
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I think it is pretty likely.

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Old 07-26-2007, 02:55 AM   #9
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I'd say he loves her but is incapable of showing such levels of emotion. His character is a lot more complex then it seems, and I have a feeling that the only regret he has about his actions is leaving Matsumoto behind.

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Old 07-26-2007, 04:53 AM   #10
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He doesn't love her but he has a soft spot for her. He said clearly that it wasn't enough in the song.

Both: Where do you want to go? What do you want to be?
Rangiku: Are you only afraid of being loved?
Gin: Only a little bit more you could have got me
It's too bad
Rangiku: I can't believe it

To me Gin is saying sorry because he can't love her back the way she does in this song. It's a sad song

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Old 07-26-2007, 08:46 AM   #11
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Does Gin love Matsumoto?

Definately, considering the fact that they have a "past" eachother

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Old 07-27-2007, 09:08 AM   #12
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I'm pretty sure he cares for her.

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Old 07-27-2007, 10:55 PM   #13
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I think he loves her as much as he is capable of loving (which, admittedly, might not be much).

He does care for her, although as a friend, a lover, or just a plaything...who knows? XD

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Old 07-27-2007, 11:32 PM   #14
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He might, he cares for her. I'm a supporter of the pairing though :D

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Old 07-31-2007, 11:46 PM   #15
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I think he loves her as much as he is capable of loving (which, admittedly, might not be much).

He does care for her, although as a friend, a lover, or just a plaything...who knows? XD
yes i agree with this very much

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Old 08-01-2007, 02:23 AM   #16
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gin he is smling all the time i don't even think we will know wether he loves matsumoto a not

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Old 08-05-2007, 04:46 PM   #17
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Who knows? Gin, as we all know, is very odd. After he left with Aizen a feeling of remorse came from him toward Matsumoto.

I don't know if it's planned to be love, but I don't think he hates her.

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Old 08-06-2007, 12:33 PM   #18
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I can see Gin lusting after her or being a good friend, but I don't see him loving her.

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Old 08-09-2007, 02:02 PM   #19
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i think he feels something for matsumoto, because if he did'nt he would have proabaly killed matsumoto and hinamori both, but he stoped, so yea i think there is something there.

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Old 08-09-2007, 07:54 PM   #20
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I think he cares for her as a brother or something, and maybe even really likes her, but he most likely doesn't love her.

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