[Tomcat171]

On that character timing aspect, I suppose I've taken the opposite route by having the actual business happen and then explain it in flashbacks or stuff. A sin, I know, but at least I know that I still plan on explaining how it got to that point. And I definitely don't plan to make it as simple as 'OMG you're hawt and I'm suddenly magnetised to you...who's the other faggot I used to be interested in for clearly brainwashed reasons?'

[Rouge Angle]

Originally Posted by AngstToThePeople

Oh, and here's something else that pisses me off.

Say, someone really, really wants to write slash with, let's say, Naruto and Kiba in it. (I do occasionally write slash myself, I have nothing against it). They most often choose to diregard everything Kishi has ever written, and just have a "Yeah, I'm gay. Sakura was just a sister. Haha." moment. WUUUT? U SERIOUS?

His crush on Sakura has been a major plot point for the last 724 seasons, you can't just disregard it!

You want to write slash? Keep your characters in character. Try having him start with a very serious and in character discussion with Sakura, ending with:

"Even though I love Sakura deeply, and always will, I know that she will only ever see me as a second choice, and I simply do not want to force to settle for less than she truly wants. I don't want her in a relationship with me simply because she feels she owes me, or that I deserve it for having been such a good shinobi."

And then maybe in chapter 10:

"Kiba is so much fun to hang out with! It's good to hand around with a guy who is like me is some ways!"

Maybe, then, by chapter 17 you can arrive to the point of:

"This feeling I'm getting is really weird.... Can someone like both girls and boys? I should try to find a way to subtly ask Tsunade-baachan."

If you write it well, it could feel mildly realistic, and not just plain wrong, because often all, many people -are- bisexual, and it -does- happen for someone to date one gender up to a certain point, and then suddenly develop a crush for someone of another gender instead. I mean, hell knows many of the girls I've dated did not identity as lesbians at all.

Point is...

Yaoi, that is, pointless smut, I don't appreciate. Just... no.

And slash needs GOOD, REALISTIC WRITING, and SOLID CHARACTERIZATION in order to work.

I agree with all of this so much. I have no problem with making a character gay (I have written slash, femslash and het so it clearly doesn't bother me) but you can't just suddenly pull the "oh he was gay all along" card when there is clear canon evidence of the character liking the opposite sex.

Also don't you hate the way girls in Magical Yaoi Land seem to morph into homophobic harpies? It's just...no.

Which brings me to my biggest slash-fic related peeve: The seme/uke thing. Words cannot fully express my loathing of this.

[Tomcat171]

Don't read yaoi

[Rouge Angle]

^ Sorry did you mean that you don't read it, or that I shouldn't?

[Tomcat171]

I referring to myself. Just ignore me

[Rouge Angle]

^ We're cool.

[Baby Joe]

He remembered showing Mito his human form. She had said he looked like her Hashirama. When he had reluctantly showed his true form to Kushina, she had stated that he looked like her Minato. What will Naruto say? FEMnarukyuubi/Kurama, onesided SasuFemNaru

....... Really. This Biju turning into humans nonsense really gets to me. It's like the Akatsuki transforming into cats.

[Rouge Angle]

^ Well Kitsune changing into people does have mythological basis. They were nearly always female though, which is where FemKyuubi comes from. But I do agree. And if I had a penny for every time the Akatsuki turned into cats...I'd have a whole lot of pennies.

[Kakashifan727]

FOR THE LOVE OF.... *headdesks repeatedly* *again* *again*

I swear I will KILL A PUPPY every time someone writes this, or Naruto in heat going to Sasuke fic, or anything of that variation (ANYTHING).

I lost the link but it was a short collection of complaints by Naru characters for things done in fanfiction. It was funny., or at least somewhat amusing.

[Tomcat171]

Naruto walked into the academy classroom.

"Wow, I'm new to Konoha again since I was taken away (nee: effectively abducted) at a young age to protect me and have automatically been merged into its school system with no background security checks by a Hokage who has suddenly forgotten my name and what I look like and I am totally better than just about everybody in this room since my sensei is a bawss and teaches me S-rank sex techni- I mean jutsus."

All the girls eyes light up.

"SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HE'S SO KAWAI DESU AND SEXEH"

Fuck off

Also:

Originally Posted by Baby Joe

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Originally Posted by Rouge Angle

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Originally Posted by Itachifan727

Told you this thread was created for giogio

[Kakashifan727]

You think?

Sasuke was brought back into the village, but he's to weak to fight the glares and disappointment. So he does with the only thing he knows, he cuts, but when he finds out Sakura is actually married to his sensei and that he can't have her, he snaps!

Konoha high is split into two, day class and night class, when Jiraiya decides to merge them together... yep. another vampire fic ;P dw, there are werewolves too and more sasusaku naruhina shikatema nejiten

Rewrite of Aracnophobia Ninja Puppies! The Akatsuki are turned into puppies and sent to our world. Watch out Akatsuki for you guys are about to meet you match, Aracnophobia. No Akatsuki/OC pairings, probably OC/OC pairings.

After Sakura moved to Konoha and turned 16 she entered the best school in Konoha. But there's something wrong with this school. Night shades are appearing, dark creatures that feed on human souls, and people are dying.

[bloodplzkthxlol]

i can understand the concept of kyuubi being a girl but the problem is that its been done so many time its bone dry.

[Rouge Angle]

^ Those are summaries I assume?

Fics where it goes "X is a vampire/werewolf/space alien/sparkly fairy and Y is a perfectly normal human. Will they find love?"

[Tomcat171]

Originally Posted by Rouge Angle

Fics where it goes "X is a vampire/werewolf/space alien/sparkly fairy and Y is a perfectly normal human. Will they find love?"

Someone did a goddamn NaruMei oneshot of this.

Mei was the vampire...

Shit you...I do not. However, it wasn't a bad oneshot, not bad at all.

[Rouge Angle]

^ I wouldn't mind so much if it hadn't been done to death, and if the characters remotely resembled themselves. Call me crazy but having someone like Naruto tear open people's throats and gulp down their blood seems a bit OOC.

[Baby Joe]

Originally Posted by Rouge Angle

^ Well Kitsune changing into people does have mythological basis. They were nearly always female though, which is where FemKyuubi comes from. But I do agree. And if I had a penny for every time the Akatsuki turned into cats...I'd have a whole lot of pennies.

Well, the Biju thing sounds like it'd make some nice artwork, but it's not my type of fic.

Originally Posted by Itachifan727

You think?

Sasuke was brought back into the village, but he's to weak to fight the glares and disappointment. So he does with the only thing he knows, he cuts, but when he finds out Sakura is actually married to his sensei and that he can't have her, he snaps!

Oh, snap.

Konoha high is split into two, day class and night class, when Jiraiya decides to merge them together... yep. another vampire fic ;P dw, there are werewolves too and more sasusaku naruhina shikatema nejiten

Vampires? Werewolves? Typical.

Rewrite of Aracnophobia Ninja Puppies! The Akatsuki are turned into puppies and sent to our world. Watch out Akatsuki for you guys are about to meet you match, Aracnophobia. No Akatsuki/OC pairings, probably OC/OC pairings.

Dammit. The Akatsuki really have been destroyed. I think that they're the most abused characters in fanfiction.

After Sakura moved to Konoha and turned 16 she entered the best school in Konoha. But there's something wrong with this school. Night shades are appearing, dark creatures that feed on human souls, and people are dying.

School? Dark creatures? Sakura? That's not a good combination.

[Whirlpool]

They girl up everything nowdays

Vampires, werewolves and now zombies since this new bullcrap movie came out.

I miss my childhood

[Rouge Angle]

^ I know, I feel your pain. But for the record I'm a woman and I loathe Twilight. I prefer throat-ripping monstrous vampires that actually eat people. I just can't see Naruto or someone doing it.

[Kakashifan727]

same, same....DRACULA where are you?????

[Dragon]

I like to think that the people who write the Akatsuki puppy fics are actually trolling us like there wasn´t tomorrow.