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Old 03-09-2012, 08:40 PM   #1
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Kabuto, with all his summons takes on Edo-Itachi and EMS Sasuke.

Restrictions: Madara Uchiha
Location: Open field/stormy rainy weather.
Assume the Sword of Amaterasu will seal anyone it pierces.
Itachi can summon Nagato from the Jar if needed.

Can they do it?

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Old 03-09-2012, 09:00 PM   #2
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Under these conditions, possibly. They are heavily out numbered though. Even if they clear the edo army, Kabuto is likely not going to go down easily.

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Old 03-09-2012, 09:13 PM   #3
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Can't we just wait for this fight to go down in the manga?

Kabuto hasn't shown much so far, and with the "stormy weather" stipulation, Sasuke may be able to take him out instantly with Kirin. Assuming Kabuto doesn't have a counter for it, of course.

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Old 03-09-2012, 09:19 PM   #4
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Can't we just wait for this fight to go down in the manga?

Kabuto hasn't shown much so far, and with the "stormy weather" stipulation, Sasuke may be able to take him out instantly with Kirin. Assuming Kabuto doesn't have a counter for it, of course.
Just assume Kabuto can use anything Orochimaru has shown. Not that difficult. And I've set this up in favor of the Uchiha here, but is it enough?

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Edo Nagato can literally stall the entire edo army Edo Madara style

He will fight just like Edo Madara......he will use Ukojizai no Jutsu to find any people like Mu & TrollKage and then spam CST, CT, Laser Explosion, Summons and what while tanking everything the Edo's can throw at him. Then he will sync will summon Gedo Mazu and the true rapping will start

Nagato effectively stalls them long enough for Itachi & Sasuke to find Kabuto and do horrible horrible horrible things to him

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Just assume Kabuto can use anything Orochimaru has shown. Not that difficult. And I've set this up in favor of the Uchiha here, but is it enough?
Like I said, let's see how this goes down in the manga first. Even with every single Edo Tensei zombie we've seen so far in the war, Kabuto could still get brutally raped by the Uchiha Bros. if his own skills outside of Edo Tensei aren't up to snuff. Especially under these conditions, where he's immediately at risk of getting struck by mountain-busting lightning.

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Can't we just wait for this fight to go down in the manga?

Kabuto hasn't shown much so far, and with the "stormy weather" stipulation, Sasuke may be able to take him out instantly with Kirin. Assuming Kabuto doesn't have a counter for it, of course.
He does, going underground. Even if momentarily.

Regardless, Edo Madara, the five bijuu, the past kage, seven swordsmen and the countless countless rest of the ET take this easily. Itachi, Sasuke and Nagato aren't beating the entire fucking ET Army.

EDIT: Ohh so it's legit Kabuchimaru here and not just Kabuto, he has literally everything Orochimaru has ever shown. Yeahhh, that doesn't help the other side.

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Old 03-09-2012, 09:26 PM   #8
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He does, going underground. Even if momentarily.
Kabuto doesn't have the speed feats to essentially dodge lightning. Even Itachi couldn't do that, and he's statistically faster than Kabuto has ever been by a pretty wide margin.

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Nobody in that army can touch them aside from Edo Madara. And like half of them will job.

On top of that, we still don't know if/how the Uchiha Bros. are capable of ending Edo Tensei.

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Old 03-09-2012, 09:27 PM   #9
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  • Kabuto has a plethora of Kage level shinobi at his disposal
  • Sasuke's Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan has limited feats.
  • Restrict Edo Tensei and this is augmented Orochimaru vs two Uchiha, a match with an apparent outcome.

Without arbitrary assumptions, it's nearly impossible to properly balance this match.

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I don't see how Kabuto will not have decent abilities himself, unless he plans to summon edo Madara to stop the bros in the manga.

On topic: I think they're just too heavily outnumbered and by multiple kage level shinobi aswell. They also have to seal all of them, which means they each only have one effective method for killing the edos. Kabuto will catch on to this.

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^Don't forget Nagato.

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Kabuto doesn't have the speed feats to essentially dodge lightning. Even Itachi couldn't do that, and he's statistically faster than Kabuto has ever been by a pretty wide margin.

Nobody in that army can touch them aside from Edo Madara. And like half of them will job.

On top of that, we still don't know if/how the Uchiha Bros. are capable of ending Edo Tensei.
Sasuke doesn't process a thought and lightning touch the ground, it's Kirin. The attack is lightning but the jutsu still has to be used anyway. Kabuto has time to go underground from the start of the match, not sure what other feats he has but if he doesn't have anything else that's the safest way to go. Especially with the multiple dozens of ET backing him.

Hell now he has all of Orochimaru's techniques so he has a lo tmore options. I'm thinking leech all creation

They won't hav ea chance to end it even if they could. Edo Madara does his job meanwhile the other 20+ pile them. They might not be able to do much alone but they aren't exactly alone here, let's see we have Sandaime Raikage, Nidaime Mizukage, Yondaime Kazekage, Muu, Sasori, Deidara, Kakuzu, Utakata, Han, Roshi, Yagura, Yugito, Fuu, Fuu(or was it tourune lol), Paki, Gari, all seven swordsmen, Toroi, Madara fucking Uchiha, Asuma, Haku, Chiyo, Hanzo, and I can keep listing and listing and listing.

Itachi and Sasuke and maybe Nagato can't do shit to all of that and all are ET form to boot. They're way outnumbered. Waaay fucking outnumbered. They're not beating, in invincible ET form, all the Akatsuki, 6 jinchuriki, Madara fucking Uchiha with EMS and Rinnegan and Hashirama's cells, Hanzo and all the past Kage, etc etc. Just ending up making a second list here, you get the point.

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^Don't forget Nagato.
Can Kabuto seal him somehow? He did create Edo Nagato.I don't think Nagato is going to go around Soloing Whole Armies.

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Can Kabuto seal him somehow? He did create Edo Nagato.I don't think Nagato is going to go around Soloing Whole Armies.
Assume Nagato is Nagato. And Nagato did solo Konoha. Naruto also said Nagato was on a whole other level than Pain.

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How am I meant to interpret Itachi needing Nagato ITT?

It seems Kabuto wins. Orochimaru's powers, alongside his own feats and mountains of Edo Tensei seem to be way too much.

Nagato may help- possibly help them with a win with attacks like CT and Human Realm.


Though Kabuto still stands a good shot at winning; he wins 10/10 times without Nagato there.

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Op restricted Edo Madara........ that by itself is damn near half is fire power (exaggerating a bit but you get the point), Nagato goes on his nuking spree and leeches all the Edo's chakra via Fujutsu Kuyin, In simpler terms they can't get around him.... they virtually would have to attack him ALL at once (even this could be countered via CST)

Now..... I AM NOT SAYING NAGATO CAN SOLO THE EDO ARMY (Edo version or not), hell you could give Nagato full mobility + Six Paths of Pain + Gedo Mazu and he still go down.....hard (a blight it would be a damn hard job for the army)

But in terms of stalling.......yes Nagato can stall the army long enough for Itachi & Sasuke to kill Kabuto or mind rape him into ending Edo Tensei

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Well, this fight can go a few ways.


Itachi insta genjutsus him for the win. (Win for Uchihas)

The Uchihas kill Kabuto (Loss for uchihas)

Kabuto kills himself (Technically a draw and a whole lot of trouble for the ninja world)

Kabuto kills the Uchihas (Kabuto win.)


I think Kabuto can simply avoid eye contact and let the Akatsuki edos and kage edos clean house.




The Uchihas have no answers to Deidara's bombs, Nagato's CT, Jokey Boy, Jinton, 3rd Raikage, Hanzo, Sasori's poison, etc.


Kabuto knows just to keep his head down to win the match.

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Well, this fight can go a few ways.


Itachi insta genjutsus him for the win. (Win for Uchihas)

The Uchihas kill Kabuto (Loss for uchihas)

Kabuto kills himself (Technically a draw and a whole lot of trouble for the ninja world)

Kabuto kills the Uchihas (Kabuto win.)


I think Kabuto can simply avoid eye contact and let the Akatsuki edos and kage edos clean house.




The Uchihas have no answers to Deidara's bombs, Nagato's CT, Jokey Boy, Jinton, 3rd Raikage, Hanzo, Sasori's poison, etc.


Kabuto knows just to keep his head down to win the match.
If Kabuto dies....the Uchihas win.......beacuse in a vs thread......if you die.... you loose

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