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Old 03-18-2012, 07:58 AM   #1
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hello i have been away for a while due to being in the hospital but i still read the manga and watch anime now here is my question

why is naruto still a gening and everyone in his class a chunin or above i mean seriously

Naruto is stronger than all of them
he has defeated most of the akatski
he defeated gaara and saved his village
he is a good tactician i know alot of you will say what to this but i mean seriously perfect example during the first exams when he is fighting kiba he comes up with the idea to turn him self into kiba to trick him and then he turns him self into akumaru to trick him agian and he beats him. he has done many things like that to trick and fool his enemys and help his team and village win
he defeated pein and saved his village
he basicly defeated the raikage
he is the only living sage..

i look at all his accomplishments and i still wounder why is he still a genin when he is basicly near or at the level of kage

can someone please explain this to me

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Old 03-18-2012, 08:03 AM   #2
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Because even if you drive a car better than fuckin' Schumacher, unless you go, apply, and take the appropriate examinations, you don't get a damn driving license.

The true power level of Naruto has nothing to do with his official rank. To gain the appropriate official ranks, he needs to undergo the appropriate official procedure, which he never did. Easy enough to understand, no?

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Naruto is a Sage so those inferior ranks should no longer interest him anymore.

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Because he is going to be the only Genin to go straight to being the Hokage without being promoted to any of the other ranks.

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Because even if you drive a car better than fuckin' Schumacher, unless you go, apply, and take the appropriate examinations, you don't get a damn driving license.

The true power level of Naruto has nothing to do with his official rank. To gain the appropriate official ranks, he needs to undergo the appropriate official procedure, which he never did. Easy enough to understand, no?
^ This. He never took the Chuunin exams again, so that's why he is still a Genin.

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Old 03-18-2012, 11:18 AM   #6
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In the village wise he's still a genin able to achieve Sage rank

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yeah you guys pretty much said it all...

a)the man is going straight for the hokage spot! wants to make the difference :D

b) he is a sage, wth he needs the rest of the ranks?!

c) this pretty much closed the thread i guess :

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Because even if you drive a car better than fuckin' Schumacher, unless you go, apply, and take the appropriate examinations, you don't get a damn driving license.

The true power level of Naruto has nothing to do with his official rank. To gain the appropriate official ranks, he needs to undergo the appropriate official procedure, which he never did. Easy enough to understand, no?

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Old 03-18-2012, 02:27 PM   #8
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Because he is going to be the only Genin to go straight to being the Hokage without being promoted to any of the other ranks.

This pretty much.

And that he hasn't taken and passed any of the exams.

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Old 03-18-2012, 03:33 PM   #9
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Rank means nothing even if Naruto is still Genin in official terms Tsunade treats Naruto as one of her most elite soldiers sending him on the most dangerous of missions as sending less capable Ninja would be foolish.

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Old 03-18-2012, 04:16 PM   #10
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exams smams, dont forget, you didn't need to, Shikimaru lost and the hokage still made him a chunnin even tho the exam never finished, there are loops and exceptions, but maybe naruto isn't even worth the titles since he is a Sage and Jinchuuriki..

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Even though Naruto's rank is Genin, he's probably beyond Hokage level or just at Hokage level. One thing for sure is that he's as powerful as a Hokage. No doubt about that.

He's only Genin rank because he didn't take the Chunin exams again. Just like how Ishi no Ishi said.

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exams smams, dont forget, you didn't need to, Shikimaru lost and the hokage still made him a chunnin even tho the exam never finished, there are loops and exceptions, but maybe naruto isn't even worth the titles since he is a Sage and Jinchuuriki..
You're wrong. You can't become a Chuunin unless you compete in the Chuunin exams, and prove you have the abilities required to become a Chuunin. To do this, you don't necessarily need to win. But you do necessarily need to compete, and prove during an official competition, that you possess strategic thinking, technique, can use your powers with economy and efficiency, and would be fit to lead a squaldron. That much is said in canon.

The Hokage can't just make anyone a Chuunin because she wants to; it's not like the Jounin rank, which is an individual assessment.

And to all those who talk about him being a Sage... This is irrelevent. There is absolutely no official "Sage" rank.

All active Konohagakure shinobi are, officially, either:
Genin
Chuunin
Jounin/Tokubetsu Jounin
The Hokage


Other titles/ranks/honorifics/feats/abilities/modes, such as being a Sage, being in ANBU, being in ROOT, being a Jinchuuriki, being a Kage-tier fighter, etc, do not affect official Konoha rank status.

Red tape and state structure have nothing to do with real power and accomplishment.

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Old 03-18-2012, 04:56 PM   #13
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Narutos gotten so strong that even if he made jounin, it would still be like being genin. It's a rank unworthy of him

The only rank worthy is Jesus, SOT6P or High-kage of the elemental nations

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Old 03-18-2012, 07:05 PM   #14
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yes but see naruto has never gotten achance to take the exams
they always send him away on missions or make him leave to go train.. so how can he become a rank if they dont give him a chance..

yes i understand what all you are saying but it should matter he should at least have a special rank of somekind for saving the village so many times and doing what he does

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Old 03-19-2012, 12:44 PM   #15
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one thing i just thought of is how come naruto doesn know alot of jutsu.. i mean especialy with the fox who can probly help him learn alot and also how come no one has tlak him his fathers jutsu or any more of jiruyas
if anything he has atleast the right to know his fathers?

yes he knows alot but most of it are shadow clones and rasengan..

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You're wrong. You can't become a Chuunin unless you compete in the Chuunin exams, and prove you have the abilities required to become a Chuunin. To do this, you don't necessarily need to win. But you do necessarily need to compete, and prove during an official competition, that you possess strategic thinking, technique, can use your powers with economy and efficiency, and would be fit to lead a squaldron. That much is said in canon.

The Hokage can't just make anyone a Chuunin because she wants to; it's not like the Jounin rank, which is an individual assessment.

And to all those who talk about him being a Sage... This is irrelevent. There is absolutely no official "Sage" rank.

All active Konohagakure shinobi are, officially, either:
Genin
Chuunin
Jounin/Tokubetsu Jounin
The Hokage


Other titles/ranks/honorifics/feats/abilities/modes, such as being a Sage, being in ANBU, being in ROOT, being a Jinchuuriki, being a Kage-tier fighter, etc, do not affect official Konoha rank status.

Red tape and state structure have nothing to do with real power and accomplishment.
So your saying, Even though its the HOKAGES decision to promote his ninja, said ninja must show off his skills to all the other villages and paint a target on his back just to get it?


And also, the third hokage explained it in a nutshell,

Chuunin exams are a replacement for war
Ninja's show off their skill to potential customers, increase village profits
if ninja is good enough, then the hokage promotes him or her to Chuunin.

It isnt said anywhere that the Chuunin exam is a prerequisite to becoming a Chuunin.

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Old 03-19-2012, 05:57 PM   #17
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one thing i just thought of is how come naruto doesn know alot of jutsu..
That's true for all of the characters. Everyone's skills come down to a few base things (in Naruto's case it's Rasengan and clones) and expand upon it in some manner.

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And to all those who talk about him being a Sage... This is irrelevent. There is absolutely no official "Sage" rank.

All active Konohagakure shinobi are, officially, either:
Genin
Chuunin
Jounin/Tokubetsu Jounin
The Hokage


Other titles/ranks/honorifics/feats/abilities/modes, such as being a Sage, being in ANBU, being in ROOT, being a Jinchuuriki, being a Kage-tier fighter, etc, do not affect official Konoha rank status.

Red tape and state structure have nothing to do with real power and accomplishment.
^This part is completely accurate.

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It isnt said anywhere that the Chuunin exam is a prerequisite to becoming a Chuunin.
For the majority of the characters that we are following, it is considered a prerequisite. However, it is probably not necessarily the only way to gain the promotion.

However, in this case (Naruto), it is a moot point. The story has said that he can't get the promotion ("I'll go from genin to Hokage" -Naruto) from back in Part I. That boast can't come true if Naruto was to actually get the promotion.

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Old 03-20-2012, 01:54 PM   #18
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Anyone else feel like Naruto still might not pass the Chunin Exams? It was displayed that the passing the exam didn't require winning the fight rather showing you have the maturity and experience to be a chunin. Part of this is knowing when to give up because your life is in danger. Shikamaru passed because he gave up when he knew there was no way to win. Naruto on the other hand never gives up and is always willing to risk his life to stand up for what he believes in.

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Anyone else feel like Naruto still might not pass the Chunin Exams? It was displayed that the passing the exam didn't require winning the fight rather showing you have the maturity and experience to be a chunin. Part of this is knowing when to give up because your life is in danger. Shikamaru passed because he gave up when he knew there was no way to win. Naruto on the other hand never gives up and is always willing to risk his life to stand up for what he believes in.
Kiba and Chouji passed and their just as bad. Insult Kiba or Chouji and they'd charge at you like a crazy mofo. Chouji nearly got himself killed by Hidan just because he got called fat.

Besides, after timeskip , Naruto has matured enough to be chuunin and after hidan, jounin.

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[quote=Roja;42421087]That's true for all of the characters. Everyone's skills come down to a few base things (in Naruto's case it's Rasengan and clones) and expand upon it in some manner.



i can understand but you would think naruto would atleast be able to know his fathers abilities and juriyas i mean those are his family jutsu

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