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Old 08-04-2008, 11:27 AM   #1
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Okay I've know this has been done before. But I didn't know where that one ended up so. Here's a new one. Hope this doesn't pisses people off. So here's my theory.

Full Size Nibi vs 4 Tails Kyuubi = Undeterminable

Which is

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My reasons is because not only do we not know what the Nibi can do. But also that people thought WRONG about how strong a 4 tail kyuubi is.

Kyuubi is the strongest and with unlimited chakra. what is 4/9 of unlimited chakra? there is no such thing. so the number of tails REPRESENTS the mental stability of Naruto's mind. How much he can control himself. His chakra is always the same in Kyuubi form. There is no way he can gush out 4/9 of kyuubi's power. Bijuu are known for immense chakra, if 4/9 of Kyuubi's power were shooting out, he'll be dead. So only an big amount of chakra that was high enough and hot enough to boil Naruto's skin off and form that 4-tails. It's compressed chakra so that's why Orochimaru couldn't pierce through it.

People always say the more tails you have the strong you are. That is true, BUT it was said about each bijuu. It was never told that Naruto gets to release a fraction of his power more. It was always about his mental stability.

I'll use Gaara vs Deidara as an example. Gaara had use his chakra power over sand and protected the ENTIRE village from Deidara's bomb. AND he still has power running and kicking. Do you really think so little of Nibi just cause you know Naruto has unlimited chakra?

And Kisame has THE largest chakra supply within Akatsuki. HOW MANY OF YOU PEOPLE think Kisame is THE strongest. Tell me. Chakra supply doesn't matter, it is about the skill of the ninja. And we don't think Naruto is the most skilled ninja alive now do we?
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The points I tried to make:
- Number of Tails Naruto Represents Losing His Mental Stability.
- No Matter How High A Person's Chakra Is, He Won't Be Using It All At Once.
- How High The Chakra Supply Doesn't Matter, It's About The Skill Of The Ninja.

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Old 08-04-2008, 12:12 PM   #2
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lol no one agrees or disagrees with my logic?

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Old 08-04-2008, 12:56 PM   #3
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This should be moved to battledome methinks.

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Old 08-04-2008, 06:33 PM   #4
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battledome.....1 subforum under this 1...

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naruto win for sure he much strong that woman ONE rasengan and its over lol

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Aisukaunta - -great reasoning... i hate to put you down like this after such an intelligent piece, but I think the simple fact in plot context is that most probably KN4 > Nibi. Kyuubi > Nibi in terms of power, and 4 > 2 in terms of power. In terms of overall destructive power, I think KN4 >> anything we've seen so far, including released forms like Gaara's Shukaku and Nibi.

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4 tails > 2 tails.

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Old 08-05-2008, 05:57 AM   #9
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duh.... 4 tails>>>>2 tails.

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Old 08-05-2008, 06:02 AM   #10
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The points I tried to make:
- Number of Tails Naruto Represents Losing His Mental Stability.
True, but not only.
Because Naruto was able to be faaaaaar more destructive once he was in four tails transformation than when he was in the one tail's one. In other words, he was able to do moves that required more chakra to be performed. So the number of tails has also to do with the power he can display while going under Kyuubi form. Consequently : Naruto has displayed 4/9 of the power of the real Kyuubi.

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- No Matter How High A Person's Chakra Is, He Won't Be Using It All At Once.
Nothing to add to this.

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- How High The Chakra Supply Doesn't Matter, It's About The Skill Of The Ninja.
True and false. See my first point for explanations.

Furthermore, it was said that the Kyuubi has an infinite charkra. The Kyuubi, right ? Not his jinchuuriki.

ANd to answer the original point of your thread, we cannot determine if full power Nibi no Nekomata is weaker/stronger than a four tails kyuubified Naruto : too many things to guess and assume, not enough canon manga material.

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This should be in the battledome and even then it should probably just be removed.

Jinchuriki's are stronger than the released beast anyway so a 4 tailed Jinchuuriki should be stronger than a released tailed beast of a lower number of tails.

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Old 08-05-2008, 08:13 AM   #12
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Jinchuriki's are stronger than the released beast anyway so a 4 tailed Jinchuuriki should be stronger than a released tailed beast of a lower number of tails.
False.
Each tailed beast is different. It is not because it was stated for the Sanbi that it is a golden rule. Kyuubi is a clever being, gifted with intelligence and speech. Just like Itchibi no Shukaku. Those creatures have alredy proven they would be totally fine without a jinchuuriki.

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Chakra matters much,even if the ninja got skills he would still need chakra to execute it like naruto's rasengan vs Kakashi's rasengan. Kakashi obviously has more skills than naruto, but naruto chakra is four times his nd can do more powerful techniques cuz of that. And i believe that the numba of tails is kinda like a unit of power. It isnt just mental stability, it is also power, 4tails is more powerful than 3tails. And furthermore Kyuubi duznt really have unlimited chakra because when they said he had unlimited chakra, it wuz just to show the magnitude of his chakra being too much not infinite.

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Naruto wins with ease.

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for some reson ill say full sized nibi-size advantage out the ass.

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for some reson ill say full sized nibi-size advantage out the ass.
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False.
Each tailed beast is different. It is not because it was stated for the Sanbi that it is a golden rule. Kyuubi is a clever being, gifted with intelligence and speech. Just like Itchibi no Shukaku. Those creatures have alredy proven they would be totally fine without a jinchuuriki.
Yes they would be fine but a ninja with the same power as them would be even stronger

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KN4's Chakra blast ends this . The destructive power is more than nibi can withstand.

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