i am american and trust me I got bullied alot in decent viewing range of teachers who couldn't be bothered to do their job. this includes being tripped on the track, being backed up against a fence while people threw basketballs at me, groped and dry humped in a class room, kicked, spit on, shoved, punched, called names and even had my underwear pulled down whenever my mother was cruel enough to make me wear a dress for picture day. most of my tormentors were in elementary school alone.

and while i am willing to admit that there are decent schools who'll jump on bullying immediately and do their damn job to make a safer learning environment, there are plenty more who don't seem to do that as often as they should and oddly enough only bother to do so when the bullied tries to fight back.

that and i can shit on anything that deserves to be shat on. its not the entire country, it's many of the school systems IN the US that continue to ignore the problem.

first of, for people to be considered his followers, they would have to adhere to his ideology - wholly. and, those that acted violently didn't fully embrace his message and they were far fewer in number. that is to say, they are not relevant to the movement; they weren't the force for change.

which brings me to your weird interpretation of events. it's not "politicians fearing violence" so much as politicians embracing the peace and change Dr. King aspired to. here's where you stumble upon your logic - violence is troublesome - so why resort to it?

our government is far from oppressive in the autocratic sense. our society might be an oligarchy, but it's far from being a dictatorship. those are politicians we put in place. this whole rigging elections thing is some conspiracy theorist talk, and everyone utilizes propaganda - they have since the dawn of civilization...it's part of the political process.

your extremist viewpoint just makes no sense and is terribly misplaced. it's irrational and would only throw the country, and the world, into further ruin. i'm not sure you think through the things you're saying.

anyway i'm done with this dialogue.

yet, i made no such claim...but you're quite mistaken regardless. what you're doing is what some of us might call 'confirmation bias.' peaceful demonstrations have proven far more successful than violent acts when it comes to social change. i.e. think Gandhi, Mandela, Dr. King, feminist movement

if the Civil War was so successful in liberating slaves, the civil rights movement wouldn't have been necessary; granted, it paved the way for the movement to take place, but it certainly didn't get rid of the problem. moreover, dr. king's movement never utilized violence which is precisely why the movement garnered the support it did; this whole politicians being afraid of violence nonsense is some weird unsubstantiated interpretation.

the revolutionary war is something fundamentally different. we aren't trying to overthrow some oppressive leaders. these are people we voted in office, and acting with our explicit approval. if we don't want them in office, we can vote them out office; e.g. think of the 2008 election - the republicans definitively being hoisted out.

now this change may have been transient due to the system's innately corrupt nature, but it is not supposed to result in a call to violence.

what you're advocating is tantamount to what that insane tea party supported did - the shooting of the congresswoman gabrielle giffords. and in all honesty, immaturity was the least of his problems. if you wanna act like him and somehow pretend to be at all emphatic, reasonable, mature - good luck to you.

are you supposed to be the grown up? the one that wants to incite murderous violence against his leaders? you really need to reevaluate your values; perhaps you can spare some of that pious empathy to those folks you want to kill. that's probably too much to ask, though, right? the irony's probably lost on you seeing as how you're bitching on my wall about being negged for acting stupid twice.

it's never lame to make fun of someone. grow some thick skin.

Im not saying my Generation doesn't work hard,I think what bothers me are the excuse some people use. Like the world doesnt care about me im not gonna care for the world or anyone else so I wont work for anybody, shit like that but w/e I know theres a lot of responsible people also.

Yes like I said we can, we have many things in our favor, transportation for ones. I remember my mother said she had to take multiple buses just to go to college.

wow that thread was old, still I dont think we work as much as they did at their age. You have to remember that back then not everyone could work or study and there wasn't as many people, but the percentage of people who could work and actually work was higher than today.

Somewhat. It's more that I just care why people neg rep me when I do get some.

Is that truly a legitimate reason to neg me? You can't find the humor in my comparison?

Honestly it's sad, but whatever.

But neither am I of anon targeting necessary frame work of society; I support actions against individuals or independent groups who have done unspeakable things, i.e. the WBC or that abusive bouncer up in Boston. That's where they can make a legitimate change, not on the framework of society.