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You'll have to give me time to answer that.

I'm an evil mastermind!

Oh.. Okay. <.< I'll be online then. Don't laugh.

Check mail, man.

To be perfectly honest... I hated Pain when he first came out. But now looking back, I fucking miss him. Right now for me manga is so terrible that Pain invasion arc seems awesome.
Pain, despite being so fillerish, had a solid villain aura. He was truly intimidating.

I get you reasoning of evil being indestructable, but I just don't agree with it. I mean, you said it yourself. They were defeated once.. So why not twice ?
Someone with the "undefeated" track record is always more intimidating and gets more respect.
Look at Orochimaru, even after he lost his arms to Hiruzen, he was still feared and respected.
Up until we saw Itachi dispatch him like fodder and Sasuke doing a similar thing afterwards.

When Madara first appeared and dropped meteors, he was truly insane. A solid villain.
But as he kept "playing around" he started to feel less intimidating. Lee ripping him in half with a kick was quite terrible for his image. No matter what the circumstances were..
Hashirama's story was the final nail in the coffin. Madara being inferior to Hashirama from the beginning, suffering defeat after defeat...
Don't know. I feel like there is no challenge if the good guys are more powerful than the evil ones.

Madara's present isn't much of a problem. It is his past.

I still don't get why Kishimoto picked 2 guys who were defeated in the past as his main villains.
Trying to humanize them ? Grey characters instead of black & white ?
But it doesn't work for me.
I find neither intimidating.

Poor Mads. He had so much potential.

What about it ? I am not a "Minato fan" if thats what your implying.

( what did I do ?

Hahaha really? I actually took the avatar from this music video which is very trippy and perhaps creepy as well. The name refers to a favorite hobbit of mine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Puph1hejMQE