Toriko Vs Naruto

LazyWaka
11-09-2010, 05:55 PM
Three fights-
1. Current Rikudo Naruto. Powerscale him if needed.
2. Six Tail Naruto
3. Sage Nartuo (allowed Summons)

They start 33 meters apart in Time Square.

Shouldn't KN6 come after sage mode?

And his new form has no impressive feats (other than moving to fast for Kisame to comprehend.)

Black Sabbath II
11-09-2010, 06:01 PM
I think Toriko already beat Sage mode Naruto.

Cthulhu-versailles
11-09-2010, 06:14 PM
Shouldn't KN6 come after sage mode?

And his new form has no impressive feats (other than moving to fast for Kisame to comprehend.)

The order ain't so important. that's for konaho library to sort out. :zaru

neodragzero
11-09-2010, 10:18 PM
I sincerely want to see mcjake's and Unknown's 2 cents on this bout.

Toriko already beat Sage Mode Naruto?

Black Sabbath II
11-09-2010, 10:19 PM
Yeah Toriko was in a gauntlet according to his OBD profile and among his victories was Sage Mode Naruto.

Stajyun
11-09-2010, 11:13 PM
I sincerely want to see mcjake's and Unknown's 2 cents on this bout.

Toriko already beat Sage Mode Naruto?

:hurr
1. Current Rikudo Naruto vs Toriko, i guess if we powerscale Rikudo Naruto he should be much stronger than KN6. Powerscaling Rikudo Naruto takes it.
2. Six Tail Naruto? :giogio thats not even funny, Toriko loses hard.
3. Sage Naruto (allowed Summons)? Toriko punches his head off, eats his summoning and levels up.

Uncle Phantom
11-09-2010, 11:28 PM
Toriko punches SM Naruto's head off?

The same guy who effortelssly threw a hundred ton rhino in the sky? with one hand?

The same guy who can throw his raisenshuriken at hypersonic speeds?

Scans on this Toriko guy please :giogio

Black Sabbath II
11-09-2010, 11:29 PM
Toriko knifes him.

Seriously Eternal Sleep. Don't even TRY and get into this. A majority agrees Toriko takes down SM Naruto.

Anyway, he loses to R.Naruto if we go by powerscaling.
And obviously loses to KN6.

Stajyun
11-10-2010, 12:03 AM
Toriko punches SM Naruto's head off?

The same guy who effortelssly threw a hundred ton rhino in the sky? with one hand?

The same guy who can throw his raisenshuriken at hypersonic speeds?

Scans on this Toriko guy please :giogio

I smell a debate,

-Toriko's stronger, faster and more durable than sage mode naruto.
-Toriko can 1 hit ko sage naruto with any of his attacks.

My good friend have you seen what a 15 ren looks like? Have you seen Toriko's knife attack? If not then you should go look it up.

Naruto threw the rhino with both arms.

Mist Puppet
11-10-2010, 12:09 AM
The same guy who effortelssly threw a hundred ton rhino in the sky? with one hand?

Let me just stop you right there.

http://manga.bleachexile.com/naruto-chapter-431-page-6.html

Definitely not one hand.

Uncle Phantom
11-10-2010, 12:16 AM
I smell a debate,

-Toriko's stronger, faster and more durable than sage mode naruto.
-Toriko can 1 hit ko sage naruto with any of his attacks.

My good friend have you seen what a 15 ren looks like? Have you seen Toriko's knife attack? If not then you should go look it up.

Naruto threw the rhino with both arms.

No, I have not had the pleasure of seeing it. Show me the error of my ways and post a scan or two and I'll gladly drop the issue.

Stajyun
11-10-2010, 12:18 AM
Just a little of Toriko feats,
http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/4/16/
http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/110/04/
http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/110/05/
http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/102/12/
Toriko surviving a punch that send him flying off the island km's away.
http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/102/15/
http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/40/10/

Uncle Phantom
11-10-2010, 12:26 AM
Just a little of Toriko feats,
http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/4/16/
http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/110/04/
http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/110/05/
http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/102/12/
Toriko surviving a punch that send him flying off the island km's away.
http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/102/15/
http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/40/10/

Thank you.

It's pretty obvious, that guy can definitely hang with SM Naruto, and most likely pummel him , if they engage in hand to hand combat. I don't think it will be as easy as people make it out to be however.

SM Naruto can possibly win if he throws Rasenshuriken right off the bat though.

How is Toriko's reaction? Is it around Mach 5? That's what it took for Pein to dodge, so if it's around that level or above then he beat's SM Naruto 10/10.

Basilikos
11-10-2010, 12:30 AM
Thanks for those scans. I've been wondering how strong people in Torikoverse were since I don't read the manga.

Stajyun
11-10-2010, 12:33 AM
Thank you.

It's pretty obvious, that guy can definitely hang with SM Naruto, and most likely pummel him , if they engage in hand to hand combat. I don't think it will be as easy as people make it out to be however.

SM Naruto can possibly win if he throws Rasenshuriken right off the bat though.

How is Toriko's reaction? Is it around Mach 5? That's what it took for Pein to dodge, so if it's around that level or above then he beat's SM Naruto 10/10.

The guy was calculated to be around 10 million tons. Unfortunately i wasn't able to get a legit speed for any of Toriko's characters, i think someone said Toriko was mach 3 or something.

No problem Basilikos.

Uncle Phantom
11-10-2010, 12:42 AM
Well, depending on SM Naruto getting off Rasenshuriken before Toriko closes the distance I say

Toriko takes SM Naruto 7-8/10

EDIT: Does Toriko use any type of energy to enhance his strength or is it just all physical?

If he's all physical then RS from SM Naruto shouldn't slow him down to much.

Stajyun
11-10-2010, 12:52 AM
Well, depending on SM Naruto getting off Rasenshuriken before Toriko closes the distance I say

Toriko takes SM Naruto 7-8/10

EDIT: Does Toriko use any type of energy to enhance his strength or is it just all physical?

If he's all physical then RS from SM Naruto shouldn't slow him down to much.

Nope Toriko characters don't have a energy type like naruto and bleach. I think it's called electric magnetic waves, thats the energy type thing around their bodies.
http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/44/09/
http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/44/07/

Reborns Allmark
11-10-2010, 03:01 AM
Three fights-
1. Current Rikudo Naruto. Powerscale him if needed.
2. Six Tail Naruto
3. Sage Nartuo (allowed Summons)

They start 33 meters apart in Time Square.

Naruto could take 1(by powerscaling) and 2 quite handily.

The only way that Sage Naruto could win is Frog call+Rasenshuriken, hoping that the wind element has enough penetrative power to bypass Toriko's durability. But I'd give it to Toriko 6/10.

Unknown
11-10-2010, 03:24 AM
The thread in with Toriko won aganist Sage Naruto was with speed equalized.
As far as I know Sage Naruto is way faster than Toriko.
So Naruto should take all the scenarios.

Has any quantificable speed feat been made in Toriko lately?

Aldric
11-10-2010, 08:52 AM
I'm unsure how Toriko's feats are supposed to be so above Sage Naruto's level

Sage Naruto has that natural energy punches shit which is a bitch to counter as even if you dodge actual physical blows you still get hit

He also has the number advantage over Toriko which can range from 4 against 1 if he has two clones gathering natural energy to a few dozens or even hundreds against 1 if he just decides to go for broke

I don't think Toriko can tank shit like being bumrushed by that giant rasengan barrage

The two old frogs also have some nifty little abilities like that giant dust cloud blocking sight (which doesn't affect Naruto as he can sense people) or the soundwaves immobilizing the opponent

Alita54
11-10-2010, 05:29 PM
If his profile info is true then rikudou naruto, KN6, and sm naruto with diffficulty can beat him.

Shoddragon
11-10-2010, 05:54 PM
pretty sure toriko characters are easily hypersonic and that toriko himself and sani are double digits IIRC?

God Movement
11-10-2010, 05:55 PM
^ Nope.

Flying Knife cuts Naruto in two though.

Stilzkin
11-10-2010, 06:44 PM
pretty sure toriko characters are easily hypersonic and that toriko himself and sani are double digits IIRC?

They are around mach 3 in the jewel meat arc.

Unknown
11-11-2010, 02:52 AM
Then they have no chances even aganist sage Naruto with is hypersonic.

Stilzkin
11-11-2010, 03:06 AM
Then they have no chances even aganist sage Naruto with is hypersonic.

Yes he does, especially if this is current Toriko.

Unknown
11-11-2010, 05:54 AM
Yes he does, especially if this is current Toriko.

How? The speed difference seems significant.
Also Sage Naruto's strenght is already on 15 ren punch level. And he has the Sage katas and the FRs, KBs, Pa and Ma with are almost as fast and as strong as him.

Wolfgang Grimmer
11-11-2010, 06:52 AM
How? The speed difference seems significant.
Also Sage Naruto's strenght is already on 15 ren punch level. And he has the Sage katas and the FRs, KBs, Pa and Ma with are almost as fast and as strong as him.

Lol no bro

Unknown
11-11-2010, 06:55 AM
Lol no bro

LOl yes bro, It was calc for the lowest end at 700,000 tons the mid end was 1 million and the high end 3 millions tons. That was for throwing the giant Rhino, with was a casual feat.
More or less the same strenght as the one calc for Toriko's 15 ren punch sending the iron rock flying.

Teach
11-11-2010, 09:27 AM
LOl yes bro, It was calc for the lowest end at 700,000 tons the mid end was 1 million and the high end 3 millions tons. That was for throwing the giant Rhino, with was a casual feat.
More or less the same strenght as the one calc for Toriko's 15 ren punch sending the iron rock flying.

He punched the rock, Naruto doesn't hit that hard, he can throw shit but not punch as hard as Toriko does. Naruto got hurt from kicking a wall.

Marth6789
11-11-2010, 10:38 AM
He punched the rock, Naruto doesn't hit that hard, he can throw shit but not punch as hard as Toriko does. Naruto got hurt from kicking a wall.

And its not like that wall was designed to hold Bijuu's right...

Chunin exams he was digging through meters of rock with his fucking finger nails...

Unknown
11-11-2010, 11:17 AM
And its not like that wall was designed to hold Bijuu's right...

Chunin exams he was digging through meters of rock with his fucking finger nails...

QFT Naruto was kicking the same Pain that resisted tanked block busting attacks.

Pacifista
11-11-2010, 11:33 AM
And its not like that wall was designed to hold Bijuu's right...

Chunin exams he was digging through meters of rock with his fucking finger nails...

Was it rock or dirt?

http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-104/page013.html

Unknown
11-11-2010, 11:38 AM
Was it rock or dirt?

http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-104/page013.html

Rock:
http://read.mangashare.com/Naruto/chapter-104/page016.html

LazyWaka
11-11-2010, 11:38 AM
It looked more like dirt to me. :giogio

Stajyun
11-11-2010, 12:03 PM
How? The speed difference seems significant.
Also Sage Naruto's strenght is already on 15 ren punch level. And he has the Sage katas and the FRs, KBs, Pa and Ma with are almost as fast and as strong as him.

When has naruto shown this? Toriko was Calculated to be around 10 million tons IIRC naruto is no where close to that level of strength. 15 ren is a high powered attack by toriko not a normal punch. Anyway Toriko beats sm naruto.

Unknown
11-11-2010, 01:36 PM
When has naruto shown this? Toriko was Calculated to be around 10 million tons IIRC naruto is no where close to that level of strength. 15 ren is a high powered attack by toriko not a normal punch. Anyway Toriko beats sm naruto.

No he wasn't, he was calc at almost 1 million for the low end to 1.5 millions for the high end.
Sage Naruto is about that strenght aswell.

Not to mention that sage Naruto is hypersonic and way faster than Toriko, he has tank block busting attacks, and he can create 3 persons that are as strong and as fast as him, and summon 2 toad with are about the same level aswell.

Stajyun
11-11-2010, 01:56 PM
No he wasn't, he was calc at almost 1 million for the low end to 1.5 millions for the high end.
Sage Naruto is about that strenght aswell.

Not to mention that sage Naruto is hypersonic and way faster than Toriko, he has tank block busting attacks, and he can create 3 persons that are as strong and as fast as him, and summon 2 toad with are about the same level aswell.

It was Calculated 10million tons for him to punch the boulder into the air and no naruto can't create 3 clones as strong as him, where the hell did you get that from? Naruto summonings are a joke compare t toriko, at best his toads will be lvl 50 in toriko verse. Toriko should be faster than naruto if we're talking about current Toriko.

Mali
11-11-2010, 01:58 PM
LOl yes bro, It was calc for the lowest end at 700,000 tons the mid end was 1 million and the high end 3 millions tons. That was for throwing the giant Rhino, with was a casual feat.
More or less the same strenght as the one calc for Toriko's 15 ren punch sending the iron rock flying.

How can throwing strength be turned in to punching strength?If it was possible then olympic wiegth lifters would have the punching strength to break 800+ concrete blocks, which they cant.

Unknown
11-11-2010, 02:06 PM
How It was?
Because sage Naruto's kick was one shooting Pains that tanked block busting attacks.
Also no, show the 10 millions calc. It was first calc at 400,000 tons, after I asked for revision It was boost to 1 million nothing more.
Show the calc or It didn't happen.

Kage Bushin creates perfect copys, as strong and as fast, only less durable, and Naruto can spam them.
Also LOL Ma and Pa are both hyperosnic and have millions of tons of strenght, they can use casual steel cutting tech, illusions...

LazyWaka
11-11-2010, 02:10 PM
How It was?
Because sage Naruto's kick was one shooting Pains that tanked block busting attacks.
Also no, show the 10 millions calc. It was first calc at 400,000 tons, after I asked for revision It was boost to 1 million nothing more.
Show the calc or It didn't happen.

Kage Bushin creates perfect copys, as strong and as fast, only less durable, and Naruto can spam them.
Also LOL Ma and Pa are both hyperosnic and have millions of tons of strenght, they can use casual steel cutting tech, illusions...

Based on what? neither have speed feats.

Stajyun
11-11-2010, 02:20 PM
How It was?
Because sage Naruto's kick was one shooting Pains that tanked block busting attacks.
Also no, show the 10 millions calc. It was first calc at 400,000 tons, after I asked for revision It was boost to 1 million nothing more.
Show the calc or It didn't happen.

Kage Bushin creates perfect copys, as strong and as fast, only less durable, and Naruto can spam them.
Also LOL Ma and Pa are both hyperosnic and have millions of tons of strenght, they can use casual steel cutting tech, illusions...

Firstly http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=660881&page=2
Secondly how the hell is Ma and Pa hypersonic and have million ton strength feats? It seems your wanking dude ease of it a bit can you? Toriko knife attack will one shot naruto and did i mention Toriko can spam his knife attack like how luffy spams his punches. If one just hits him it's over.

Mali
11-11-2010, 02:50 PM
Firstly http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=660881&page=2
Secondly how the hell is Ma and Pa hypersonic and have million ton strength feats? It seems your wanking dude ease of it a bit can you? Toriko knife attack will one shot naruto and did i mention Toriko can spam his knife attack like how luffy spams his punches. If one just hits him it's over.

Uknown's way of thinking is very................:dupe

Reborns Allmark
11-11-2010, 08:08 PM
Firstly http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=660881&page=2
Secondly how the hell is Ma and Pa hypersonic and have million ton strength feats? It seems your wanking dude ease of it a bit can you?

Ma and Pa are possibly hypersonic by powerscaling Sage mode Naruto, considering Pa was able to keep up w/ Naruto during their training.

But I have no idea in this million ton strength feat, though. But Pa was able to carry and throw Gamabunta(but we have no idea how heavy this guy is). :hmm

Toriko knife attack will one shot naruto and did i mention Toriko can spam his knife attack like how luffy spams his punches. If one just hits him it's over.


Depends on the distance and if it hits Naruto, though. And Naruto still has Shadow clones for feints and decoys.

Does 15 ren punch have a charge time? Or maybe was that Kugi punch? or are they the same thing? I'm not really familiar with the manga. :sweat

Stilzkin
11-11-2010, 08:40 PM
Ma and Pa are possibly hypersonic by powerscaling Sage mode Naruto, considering Pa was able to keep up w/ Naruto during their training.


Seeing as Gai is accepted at mach 7 and Pain is argued at mach 5 I wouldn't say they are hypersonic.



Does 15 ren punch have a charge time? Or maybe was that Kugi punch? or are they the same thing? I'm not really familiar with the manga. :sweat

No it has no more charge time than a normal punch.


Some random Toriko feats for people who haven't read it:

http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/70/10/

http://www.manga2u.com/Toriko/110/05/

http://www.cloudmanga.com/Toriko/111/#11
http://www.cloudmanga.com/Toriko/111/#13
He then fell thousands of meters and fended off some giant monsters.

Shoddragon
11-11-2010, 09:40 PM
he fell 20 fucking kilometers and survived. after being nearly killed beforehand.

Unknown
11-12-2010, 01:13 PM
First Tnedo was faster than the mach 5.3 FRS, Tendo wasn't just mach 5.3, he was faster than that to be able to do the feat he made.
Second, Sage Naruto was faster than Tendo. Pa was easily keeping with him.
So Sage Naruto, Ma and Pa are hypersonic.

Third, Pa lifted Bunta with one arm and throwed him over 30 meters, with one arm, he also was able to keep with Sage Naruto easily.
They have about a million tons, Toriko's best attack is 5 millions, so Toriko's best attack would be about 5 times stronger than Naruto's casual attacks.

Sage Naruto is strong and fast enough to defeat Toriko with the help of Kb and the summons. He also has the FRS if needed.

Stilzkin
11-12-2010, 01:21 PM
First Tnedo was faster than the mach 5.3 FRS, Tendo wasn't just mach 5.3, he was faster than that to be able to do the feat he made.
Second, Sage Naruto was faster than Tendo. Pa was easily keeping with him.
So Sage Naruto, Ma and Pa are hypersonic.



Can you post a pic of the toads keeping up with Naruto or Pain in speed?



They have about a million tons, Toriko's best attack is 5 millions, so Toriko's best attack would be about 5 times stronger than Naruto's casual attacks.


Lifting strength does not equal striking strength

When it comes to the strength of an attack we go by feats not tons.

LazyWaka
11-12-2010, 01:25 PM
Can you post a pic of the toads keeping up with Naruto or Pain in speed?

Well, Pa was when they were sparring. But that was more for training and neither were serious so I dont think that counts.

Unknown
11-12-2010, 01:34 PM
It counts, Pa could be doing it casually, but Sage Naruto was training for real.

Also Sage Naruto's kicks were damaging Tendou as much as he was damaged by his own block busting ST.

Also the 1 million tons wasn't calc because Naruto lift a 1 million ton Rhino, but because he throw a Rhino hundreds of meters into the sky.

Toriko
06-23-2011, 06:58 PM
the necromancer must be kugi punched

Dogescartes
06-23-2011, 07:50 PM
Sage Mode beats toriko with hypersonic rasenshuriken.

kyubi forms and rikudo forms are rape.

kinda sad, since i prefer toriko over naruto, and im being generous

Soledad Eterna
06-23-2011, 08:06 PM
I haven't finishied reading Toriko, only a few chapters left, but from what I've seen a flying knife and fork would kill Naruto. However he really lacks speed, and Naruto probably trumps him in that. He also has many similar feats to him in SM, so without speed equalize Naruto should win.

narutogeass
06-23-2011, 08:19 PM
SM naruto's faster then toriko? And with that naruto speed blitzes toriko. /thread yup Speed Blitz by naruto it happens all the time shouldnt be no different here lol right luffy.

Colderz
06-23-2011, 10:56 PM
Toriko should be able to beat Naruto in Sage mode. The rest he would lose to.

Black Sabbath II
06-23-2011, 11:00 PM
Necros everywhere

Chocolate Donut
06-24-2011, 01:59 AM
Well, we DO have a feat from RM Naruto, so now there's new information for this thread.

Francesco.
06-24-2011, 02:00 AM
Toriko wins againts SM Naruto, dies orribly againts KN6 and RM.

blademan9999
06-24-2011, 02:00 AM
Nine tails solos.

Lord Braska
06-24-2011, 02:01 PM
Knife and fork. Then, spoon.

Overkill.

Alita54
06-25-2011, 12:04 AM
Naruto wins. He's faster than stronger than Toriko and the FRS would easily kill Toriko.

Black Sabbath II
06-25-2011, 12:18 AM
Naruto wins. He's faster than stronger than Toriko and the FRS would easily kill Toriko.

Let me laugh harder.

Alita54
06-25-2011, 12:30 AM
Let me laugh harder.
Toriko's strength was calced 500,000 tons low end - 1 million tons high end. Naruto's rhino feat had him calced at at least 3 million tons low end.

Black Sabbath II
06-25-2011, 12:38 AM
Toriko's STRIKING force was calced at that. And for Naruto it was lifting. Guess what? Striking=/=lifting force. Naruto hasn't shown the ability to hit even 1/12th as hard as toriko. Hell, a punch from Raikage impressed him and Raikage is nowhere NEAR Toriko level in strength.

Not to mention that calc was done a couple of arcs prior to current Toriko, who's current striking force makes the last one look pathetic. I honestly lol at anyone who thinks Naruto can hit harder than Toriko.

Alita54
06-25-2011, 12:53 AM
Toriko's STRIKING force was calced at that. And for Naruto it was lifting. Guess what? Striking=/=lifting force. Naruto hasn't shown the ability to hit even 1/12th as hard as toriko. Hell, a punch from Raikage impressed him and Raikage is nowhere NEAR Toriko level in strength.

Not to mention that calc was done a couple of arcs prior to current Toriko, who's current striking force makes the last one look pathetic. I honestly lol at anyone who thinks Naruto can hit harder than Toriko.
Naruto's kicks and punches were hurting pein who tanked his own city block+ busting shinra tensei. The kicks and punches hurt him more than the shinra tensei. Either way it means naruto's lifting strength at the least is superior to toriko's lifting strength.

Black Sabbath II
06-25-2011, 12:58 AM
Naruto's kicks and punches were hurting pein who tanked his own city block+ busting shinra tensei. The kicks and punches hurt him more than the shinra tensei. Either way it means naruto's lifting strength at the least is superior to toriko's lifting strength.

This entire post was just one massive mass of fan wankage multiplied by infinity. :geg First off, lol at city block shinra tensei. The one he used on kn6 paled in comparison to CST and the ST he used on the toads.

Secondly, lol at Pein even having anywhere near city block level durability. None of the pein bodies are that durable. Hell the best durability tank of them all is Asura path and even chouji could smash it. Guess what? Choji's punches are weak as shit compared to Toriko's.

But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

Alita54
06-25-2011, 01:04 AM
This entire post was just one massive mass of fan wankage multiplied by infinity. :geg First off, lol at city block shinra tensei. The one he used on kn6 paled in comparison to CST and the ST he used on the toads.

Secondly, lol at Pein even having anywhere near city block level durability. None of the pein bodies are that durable. Hell the best durability tank of them all is Asura path and even chouji could smash it. Guess what? Choji's punches are weak as shit compared to Toriko's.

But hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

Prove the bolded. It was weaker than the amped shinra tensei definately but there's nothing to imply the one he used on the toads was weaker than the one he used on KN6. Espically considering KN6 was a far bigger threat over the toads. he had no reason to hold back.

Black Sabbath II
06-25-2011, 01:11 AM
Ai caramba. :giogio

Compare this

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v47/c438/5.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v47/c438/6.html

to this

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v47/c434/8.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v47/c434/9.html

Hell you can tell just by the damage it did to the surroundings. The one he used on KN6 wrecked the floor a bit, but wasn't all that widespread. The one he used on the toads was MUCH more explosive and widespread. Hell the 'explosion' if you'd call it that, was about the size of the toad summons themselves. It's pretty obvious Pein used a weaker version of ST on KN6. So in short, lol at Pein having city block level durability.

Reborns Allmark
06-25-2011, 01:13 AM
Toriko's STRIKING force was calced at that.

I always thought Striking strength>Lifting strength? Force equals mass times acceleration, right? :hmm

I'm not saying that Naruto is stronger than Toriko, though, since Toriko's strength is ridiculously unbelievable.

Secondly, lol at Pein even having anywhere near city block level durability. None of the pein bodies are that durable.

I'm pretty sure only Deva realm has block level durability. But it's debatable only if Rasengan is considered block level as well.:huh

Hell the best durability tank of them all is Asura path and even chouji could smash it.

Asura is more of an endurance tank, since he's more like a cyborg-like puppet.

Black Sabbath II
06-25-2011, 01:18 AM
]I always thought Striking strength>Lifting strength? [/B]Force equals mass times acceleration, right? :hmm

I'm not saying that Naruto is stronger than Toriko, though, since Toriko's strength is ridiculously unbelievable.



I'm pretty sure only Deva realm has block level durability. But it's debatable only if Rasengan is considered block level as well.:huh



Asura is more of an endurance tank, since he's more like a cyborg-like puppet.

It does. Which is why the thought of Naruto hitting harder than toriko is absolutely ridiculous considering the rhino feat was based on Naruto's lifting strength, not his striking force. Hell Raikage's strikes which aren't even building level managed to worry current Naruto. Toriko's been breaking large iron ores and giant chunks of ice which placed him somewhere between skyscraper to city block level in destructive power(Due to the volume of the iron ore). And Toriko's gotten much stronger since that point.

Alita54
06-25-2011, 01:21 AM
Ai caramba. :giogio

Compare this

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v47/c438/5.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v47/c438/6.html

to this

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v47/c434/8.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/naruto/v47/c434/9.html

Hell you can tell just by the damage it did to the surroundings. The one he used on KN6 wrecked the floor a bit, but wasn't all that widespread. The one he used on the toads was MUCH more explosive and widespread. Hell the 'explosion' if you'd call it that, was about the size of the toad summons themselves. It's pretty obvious Pein used a weaker version of ST on KN6. So in short, lol at Pein having city block level durability.
You seem to forget KN6 tanked most of the attack to begin with so obviously the damage woulden't be as widespread since KN6 body absorbed it. Not to mention we don't even see the full amount of damage to the area that was actually done.

Black Sabbath II
06-25-2011, 01:23 AM
A very much doubt the attack hitting KN6 would diminish the overall force of the attack. That'd mean the one used on the toads absolutely shits on the one used on KN6 since their bodies could have absorbed most of the blow or some shit. :zaru

Face it man, the one used on Naruto just wasn't as impressive. Let's leave it at that.

Alita54
06-25-2011, 01:24 AM
I always thought Striking strength>Lifting strength? Force equals mass times acceleration, right? :hmm

I'm not saying that Naruto is stronger than Toriko, though, since Toriko's strength is ridiculously unbelievable.



I'm pretty sure only Deva realm has block level durability. But it's debatable only if Rasengan is considered block level as well.:huh



Asura is more of an endurance tank, since he's more like a cyborg-like puppet.
Rasegan does internal damage not external damage. And lol at mazin saying raikage isn't even building level.

Alita54
06-25-2011, 01:27 AM
A very much doubt the attack hitting KN6 would diminish the overall force of the attack. That'd mean the one used on the toads absolutely shits on the one used on KN6 since their bodies could have absorbed most of the blow or some shit. :zaru

Face it man, the one used on Naruto just wasn't as impressive. Let's leave it at that.
Agian we don't even see the full amount of damage in the scan not to mention the attack sent pein flying just like the toads. The toads coulden't absorb it cause they wern't durable enough. kn6 could because he is.

Black Sabbath II
06-25-2011, 01:27 AM
Rasegan does internal damage not external damage. And lol at mazin saying raikage isn't even building level.

:huh When the guy's best feats are busting through walls and wrecking the floor I don't really see how that equates to building level. The only thing that could bump him up to building level is powerscaling and even that would be flawed.

What makes him dangerous is his speed, strength and his lighting shroud which adds cutting elements to his attacks. But that still doesn't put him near building level destructive capacity. Especially considering his best attack (AKA raiger bomb) did not (Shock and awe) even destroy the room they were in.

Alita54
06-25-2011, 01:44 AM
http://www.mangareader.net/93-31674-8/naruto/chapter-463.html

Using a ruler sasuke is 1.5 cm and 1.7 meters tall in that scan while the crater is 15.5 cm which makes the crater raikage made 17.6 meters in length and the full size of the crater can't be seen so the crater is likely bigger. That attack should be at least large building level or close to it.

Black Sabbath II
06-25-2011, 01:51 AM
You accounted for the length of the crater. What about the depth? Length alone isn't going to give you large building level destructive power if the depth isn't anywhere close to that. And judging by the fact that that hole isn't particularly deep...

Soledad Eterna
06-25-2011, 01:56 AM
Toriko tanked an attack from a beast that left a massive crater in a wall and then survived a fall more than a Km long, he also then had to resist the gravity and climate changes of the gourmet world. Naruto's punches aren't doing that much damage. And his attacks are comparable to those of Zebra that go at supersonic speeds. If Naruto goes clos to him he uses knife or fork and kills him, or just a 15 ren.

Eldritch Sukima
06-25-2011, 02:04 AM
The depth of the crater is massively inconsistent.

http://www.manga-access.com/manga/N/Naruto/chapter/463/5

This is what it looks like at first.

ChaosTheory123
06-25-2011, 02:05 AM
You accounted for the length of the crater. What about the depth? Length alone isn't going to give you large building level destructive power if the depth isn't anywhere close to that. And judging by the fact that that hole isn't particularly deep...

Actually, he's probably right about the large building level thing.

Toguro at 80% (another character considered large building+) created a massive crater in the ground about 22 meters across.

The depth was probably somewhere around 7-8 meters.

Volume ends up being 2,000 m^3 or more.

Probably needs a few tons of tnt to accomplish the complete demolishion of all that rock.

Bare in mind, 10 tons of tnt is city block level.

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=14304

Seriously, just look at the sizes for Ubogin and Toguro.

Hiei's punch was closer to building level in all honesty.

Soledad Eterna
06-25-2011, 02:08 AM
The crater Raikage left looks about the size of this http://www.mangareader.net/349-57546-11/toriko/chapter-111.html

Black Sabbath II
06-25-2011, 02:10 AM
Actually, he's probably right about the large building level thing.

Toguro at 80% (another character considered large building+) created a massive crater in the ground about 22 meters across.

The depth was probably somewhere around 7-8 meters.

Volume ends up being 2,000 m^3 or more.

Probably needs a few tons of tnt to accomplish the complete demolishion of all that rock.

Bare in mind, 10 tons of tnt is city block level.

Well with the toguro calc, as you said, there were many other factors added into the equation. (The volume of rock destroyed and the depth which is much deeper than the one raikage created). The crater only looked to be slightly deeper than Raikage's length in that scan.

Although ES said the depth of the crater is inconsistent since it was MUCH deeper in that scan and would probably warrant a large building level destructive power argument from me.

ChaosTheory123
06-25-2011, 02:13 AM
Honestly, Raikage's crater should only really need to look about the same as Ubogin's to warrant a baseline Large Building level attack.

Anyway, I've pointed out my semantical shit for the night. Enjoy the necroed thread.

Shoddragon
06-25-2011, 02:14 AM
Toriko's strength was calced 500,000 tons low end - 1 million tons high end. Naruto's rhino feat had him calced at at least 3 million tons low end.

striking doesn't equal lifting most of the time. if you use your logic, post time skip luffy can beat like... ssj1 goku easily ignoring ki and speed difference.

pikachuwei
06-25-2011, 04:00 AM
Shouldnt SM Naruto be much faster than Toriko?

Iirc Toriko and Zebra had difficulty against Salamander sphinx, who's attacks were only sonic speed

Aldric
06-25-2011, 05:14 AM
Even if sage Naruto wasn't faster Toriko really doesn't have any answer to sage mode mass kagebushin + frog kata phantom punches, or the giant rasengan barrage, or just a few kagebushin restraining him while the real Naruto body nukes him from a distance with FRS

And even if he somehow could withstand these attacks and wait for sage mode to run out, then Nardo would just have to activate kyuubi mode and blitz him to hell

Or are we supposed to believe Toriko is faster than Raikage now

Stajyun
06-25-2011, 09:39 AM
Speed and power isn't everything, SM naruto should be able to out smart Toriko and hit him with a FRS. Like Aldric already said kagebushin + frog kata will pretty much have toriko wondering what the fuck hit him until naruto kills him with a FRS. Also the calc was redone because they used a inaccurate size for toriko. Toriko's striking force went up to 10million tons of striking force not 1.

MakeEmum
06-25-2011, 03:40 PM
For non Toriko readers the boulder he destroys with !5 ren is made of iron

narutogeass
06-25-2011, 04:00 PM
naruto on all counts.

Endless Mike
06-25-2011, 04:20 PM
For non Toriko readers the boulder he destroys with !5 ren is made of iron

Actually it's iron ore, which is basically rock with iron in it

Stajyun
06-26-2011, 01:55 AM
Actually it's iron ore, which is basically rock with iron in it

Which overall toughness surpasses iron :/, it's huge btw.

reddogs52
06-26-2011, 03:10 AM
Toriko would beat base naruto and MAYBE SM naruto. But where he loses is against RM Naruto. Speed means a lot here and I'm assuming RM naruto is at least as strong as SM naruto.

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