Who is faster? Gai(6 gates) vs Raikage(raiton shroud)

†_Camorra_†
10-28-2009, 06:26 AM
Probably Raikage but not by much,if Gai oppens the 7th gate which is said to remove the limit of how fast the body can move then he will be even faster then Raikage with Raiton shroud.

Maerala
10-28-2009, 06:27 AM
Raikage's speed was compared to the Fourth Hokage's, Namikaze Minato, easily the fastest man to have ever existed.

Perhaps seven gated Gai, but I don't think six cuts it. There's not a lot of difference though.

Air D
10-28-2009, 06:27 AM
Raikage is pretty fast.... I can't decide. Gai with Gates could do what Lee did, being fast enough to counter the absolute defense of Gaara. However, Raikage's speed was compared the greatness of Minato Namikaze, who is arguably one of the greatest shinobi ever created. Man, I don't knoW!!

Rampage
10-28-2009, 06:29 AM
Raikage's speed was compared to the Fourth Hokage's, Namikaze Minato, easily the fastest man to have ever existed.
Perhaps seven gated Gai, but I don't think six cuts it. There's not a lot of difference though.

indeed it was, but then again who was there to witness Gai's speed?

the_symbol_of_rebirth
10-28-2009, 06:30 AM
Hard to say Sasuke had to defend himself with 2 ms jutsu against Raikages speed. Gai defeated 30% Kisame pretty quick after he went 6 gates. I have now idea, however Raikages is better because it doesnt wear him out that much.

Bart
10-28-2009, 06:30 AM
Raikage's speed is what could be termed as unnatural from anything we have seen to date within the Naruto Universe.

Air D
10-28-2009, 06:31 AM
indeed it was, but then again who was there to witness Gai's speed?
Wasn't Gai's children there to witness his speed when he fought Kisame? And since Kakashi is his rival, he was there to see him use his jutsu before?

Rampage
10-28-2009, 06:32 AM
Wasn't Gai's children there to witness his speed when he fought Kisame? And since Kakashi is his rival, he was there to see him use his jutsu before?

what, your saying that kakashi has seen/fought gai fight with 6 gates open?

Air D
10-28-2009, 06:36 AM
what, your saying that kakashi has seen/fought gai fight with 6 gates open?
I'm just inferring that because don't you think Kakashi, as Gai's rival, would know all that is in his arsenal?

Marco
10-28-2009, 06:38 AM
6 Gated Gai, according to me.

Raikage was just at the brink of what the Sharingan can't keep up with. He only went past that with Shunshin.

6 Gated Gai = Shunshin Minato or Shunshin Raikage according to me.

Rampage
10-28-2009, 06:41 AM
I'm just inferring that because don't you think Kakashi, as Gai's rival, would know all that is in his arsenal?

not really, kakashi knows that Gai can open the gates but he wouldnt know to exactly what extent the speed of the 6th gate is

Love.
10-28-2009, 07:17 AM
They come in close but IMO Gai just takes the lead, though comparing raikages is more effective, it doesnt mess you up as much after as opposed to 6 gates.


6 gates = slightly faster, less effective for long fights.

Raiton Shroud = Slights slower, more effective.

Kitsukaru
10-28-2009, 07:29 AM
Has Gai ever gone 8 gates? I can't remember. If not then we do not know how fast he can go.

Either way, even if he does go 8 gates he'd be risking his life whereas Raikage is not.

Rampage
10-28-2009, 07:33 AM
Has Gai ever gone 8 gates? I can't remember. If not then we do not know how fast he can go.

Either way, even if he does go 8 gates he'd be risking his life whereas Raikage is not.

were talking about 6 gates gai not 8

Kitsukaru
10-28-2009, 07:37 AM
were talking about 6 gates gai not 8
Oh shit, excuse me, I've had no sleep since yesterday. If thats the case then there is no doubt that Raikage is faster :ho

Hiro
10-28-2009, 07:40 AM
Moving to the BD

Rampage
10-28-2009, 07:44 AM
hiroshi you added lee to the poll instead of gai could you change it

Bart
10-28-2009, 07:55 AM
Raikage was just at the brink of what the Sharingan can't keep up with. He only went past that with Shunshin.

No, it was with the Raiton Shroud, and using Shunshin made him attain even more speed by dodging Amaterasu at point blank range. Kisame had time to react to Gai, whereas Sasuke did not, which is why he ended up unleashing Susanoo.

Rampage
10-28-2009, 07:58 AM
No, it was with the Raiton Shroud, and using Shunshin made him attain even more speed by dodging Amaterasu at point blank range. Kisame had time to react to Gai, whereas Sasuke did not, which is why he ended up unleashing Susanoo.

Kisame saw Gai coming but couldnt do anything to counter, stop the attack as the speed was to great

Innerhype
10-28-2009, 08:02 AM
Gai's kicks and punches were breaking orbital velocities (5 miles per second), I think that fact settles this one.

Bart
10-28-2009, 08:04 AM
Kisame saw Gai coming but couldnt do anything to counter, stop the attack as the speed was to great

Kisame stopped Gai's attack somewhat with Samehada, whereas Raikage's reaction speed allowed him to avoid any such contact from his opponent, however, it was his arrogance which allowed Sasuke to scratch him via Raiton.

Rampage
10-28-2009, 08:10 AM
Kisame stopped Gai's attack somewhat with Samehada, whereas Raikage's reaction speed allowed him to avoid any such contact from his opponent, however, it was his arrogance which allowed Sasuke to scratch him via Raiton.

i dont think kisame stopped him with his samehada, he tried to but couldnt as gai speed raped him

Jermaine
10-28-2009, 12:48 PM
Raikage's speed was compared to the Fourth Hokage's, Namikaze Minato, easily the fastest man to have ever existed.

Perhaps seven gated Gai, but I don't think six cuts it. There's not a lot of difference though.

This sums it up.

biar
10-28-2009, 02:17 PM
Many unknowns in this debate. We don't know if 100% Kisame is any faster than the 30% Kisame, or were the flames of Asa Kujaku ignited by Gai's aura or speedy punches.

I would say Raikage by a slight margin since he dodged Juugo's blast in point blank range while Kisame was able to react Gai's 6th gate with a slash.

Koroshi
10-28-2009, 02:24 PM
There are two distinct levels of Raiton Shroud, one the Sharingan could keep up with it well, the other one MS couldn't keep up with it. Though it's for a shorter amount of time though. I'm guessing Raikage's is about the same as 6-gates except slightly slower.

Rampage
10-28-2009, 03:50 PM
Many unknowns in this debate. We don't know if 100% Kisame is any faster than the 30% Kisame, or were the flames of Asa Kujaku ignited by Gai's aura or speedy punches.

I would say Raikage by a slight margin since he dodged Juugo's blast in point blank range while Kisame was able to react Gai's 6th gate with a slash.

he didnt react to it with a slash

kry0n
10-28-2009, 04:32 PM
The Hachimoun Tonkou makes any char so imba fast

Gai for sure

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•Sharingan Squid•
10-28-2009, 05:00 PM
Raikage easily.

6-gated Gai is about Sasuke level in speed.

Rampage
10-28-2009, 05:13 PM
Raikage easily.

6-gated Gai is about Sasuke level in speed.

:lmao

6 gated gai's speed>>>>>>sasuke's speed

Mongolian Chop Squad
10-28-2009, 05:19 PM
Gai w/ 6 gates IMO.

kry0n
10-28-2009, 08:35 PM
Raikage easily.

6-gated Gai is about Sasuke level in speed.
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David
10-28-2009, 08:43 PM
IIRC Pre-Lee with 4 Gates was tearing the ground apart more far more than Raikage did simply by landing his first kick on Gaara. Remembering that makes me think Post Gai's speed and power are both above the Raikage's when "in" the 6th Gate.

Lord Stark
10-28-2009, 09:32 PM
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/258/16-17/

This, at least in my opinion puts 6 gated Guy above Raikage in Taijutsu.

Hiruzen
10-28-2009, 09:35 PM
I'd give it to Gai with 6 gates.

Imagine 8 gates Gai speed :argh:argh:kaga:argh:argh

biar
10-29-2009, 12:58 AM
he didnt react to it with a slash

an attempt to slash, before getting contrasted with Gai's speedy kick.

Grimmjowsensei
10-29-2009, 10:07 AM
Well actually, we can't make a direct comparison but Raikage's feat is better(blitzed a faster dude with sharingan), so he ultimately takes this. However, there is also the fact that Gai's limbs were on fire(his kick and punches) and databook explains it by saying it was due to the 'friction' and if we are to take it literally, not as just some cool visual effect, then it means that Gai is so fast that his punches and kicks catch on fire because of the air friction, which puts him above everyone we've seen so far in terms of speed.

Atlantic Storm
10-29-2009, 10:48 AM
Raikage's speed was compared to the Fourth Hokage's, Namikaze Minato, easily the fastest man to have ever existed.

Perhaps seven gated Gai, but I don't think six cuts it. There's not a lot of difference though.

Proof please :)

mastergimmy
10-30-2009, 09:08 AM
Possibly raikage but not by much. 7 gate gai shood be on par with him.

David
10-30-2009, 09:12 AM
Actually, IIRC Raikage's lightning shroud's greatest effect is it's effect of lightning/Yellow Flash-like reactions, not speed. So IMO his reactions are much better than Gai in 6th Gates, but Gai in 6th Gates outmatches his speed by more than a little but less than a lot.

timmysblood
10-30-2009, 09:50 PM
Actually, IIRC Raikage's lightning shroud's greatest effect is it's effect of lightning/Yellow Flash-like reactions, not speed. So IMO his reactions are much better than Gai in 6th Gates, but Gai in 6th Gates outmatches his speed by more than a little but less than a lot.

this

his reactions are better but his speed is not.

kidgogeta
10-30-2009, 10:35 PM
Raikage easily.

6-gated Gai is about Sasuke level in speed.

Is that a fact? Prove that Sasuke is even faster than Base Gai...

As for the topic Raikages shroud only makes his reactions as good as the 4th. What he used to dodge amaterasu was a super chakra charged shunshun hes not always that fast guys or else nobody could beat him.

Ryuzaki
10-30-2009, 11:03 PM
Raikage probably can last longer with the Raiton Shroud but Gai on the other hand is only short-lived. I think Gai maybe stronger but Raikage is probably faster.

•Sharingan Squid•
10-31-2009, 10:58 AM
Is that a fact? Prove that Sasuke is even faster than Base Gai...

As for the topic Raikages shroud only makes his reactions as good as the 4th. What he used to dodge amaterasu was a super chakra charged shunshun hes not always that fast guys or else nobody could beat him.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/08/
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http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/13/ - Sasuke being so fast even Deidara needs to be warned and resorts to using an explosive to keep distance.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/277/15/
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http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/277/16/ - Deidara easily evading and blocking all of Team Gai's blows without arms and just a kunai in his mouth.

Jesus christ, anyone who still believes Gai is actually something compared to the speed demons of this manga is kidding himself :lmao

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10-31-2009, 11:58 AM
Raikage easily.

6-gated Gai is about Sasuke level in speed.
please........base gai speed>sasuke.

but yeah i have to say 6 gated gai.

Hidden Nin
10-31-2009, 12:39 PM
Gai was fast enough to ignite the air from the very friction of the acceleration of his punches.

I think it's safe to say he's faster.

Rampage
10-31-2009, 12:48 PM
Jesus christ, anyone who still believes Gai is actually something compared to the speed demons of this manga is kidding himself :lmao

Gai is the speed demon of this manga

base gai>>sasuke
Gates is just rape

kidgogeta
11-01-2009, 04:13 PM
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/08/
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http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/13/ - Sasuke being so fast even Deidara needs to be warned and resorts to using an explosive to keep distance.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/277/15/
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http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/277/16/ - Deidara easily evading and blocking all of Team Gai's blows without arms and just a kunai in his mouth.

Jesus christ, anyone who still believes Gai is actually something compared to the speed demons of this manga is kidding himself :lmao

Why are you talking about speed demons? Sasuke isn't even top tier in speed. You mean Tobi who acts scared or impressed by anything commented on Sasukes speed? I would hope so. Deidara is a ranged fighter, what was he suppose to do pull out a clay sword and clash with Sasuke up close? It doesn't matter who he fought he would have eventually gotten some distance to use his attacks.

I love how you got that he "easily blocked and evaded" when all you see in your linked page is a bunch of lines indicating a minor clash and Deidara admitting that there was no way he could escape.You have nothing really backing you up except your twisted view of dialogue and events.Gai on the other hand boasts a 5 in speed to Sasuke's 4.5.

Mist Puppet
11-01-2009, 05:29 PM
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/08/

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/09/

Turn to the next page, Deidara dodges the attack (which he didn't need a warning for) :zaru

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/13/ - Sasuke being so fast even Deidara needs to be warned and resorts to using an explosive to keep distance.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/10/
First of all, he was using Shunshin. Sasuke using base speed + no shunshin wouldn't even surprise Deidara.

Plus, he was distracted because he noticed his C1s were not detonating.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/277/15/
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http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/277/16/ - Deidara easily evading and blocking all of Team Gai's blows without arms and just a kunai in his mouth.

All? More like just Tenten's. :hehee

Jesus christ, anyone who still believes Gai is actually something compared to the speed demons of this manga is kidding himself :lmao

Says someone who thinks Sauce is faster than base Gai.

Grimmjowsensei
11-02-2009, 08:17 AM
Actually, IIRC Raikage's lightning shroud's greatest effect is it's effect of lightning/Yellow Flash-like reactions, not speed. So IMO his reactions are much better than Gai in 6th Gates, but Gai in 6th Gates outmatches his speed by more than a little but less than a lot.

this

his reactions are better but his speed is not.


Raikage blitzed Sasuke's vision on foot. What allowed him to move faster than Sasuke's gaze was his movement speed. He has the reactions to anticipate and react to Amaterasu and has the movement speed to run from it.

Han Solo
11-02-2009, 08:20 AM
Probably very similar interms of speed.

Raikage obviously has the better reaction time though.

iFructis
11-02-2009, 04:25 PM
I would go for Raikage, since imo, he is the fastest ninja alive. Minato Thunder God Technique is a teleport jutsu, not raw speed. Raikage is purely raw nasty speed, like thunder. Gai sure is fast but Raikage>Gai

mangafreak
11-02-2009, 05:54 PM
Some of you people is just gai fans,raikage is obviously faster mainly because he is fast enough to dodge amatseru.and i think just six gate gai is going to be fast enough to dodge amatersu

Mégas Strategos
11-02-2009, 06:23 PM
What are people talking about? Sasuke has always been top-tier in speed due to his shunshin and its only recently that the likes of Kirabi and Raikage have emerged to be revealed as faster characters.

Rampage
11-02-2009, 06:35 PM
What are people talking about? Sasuke has always been top-tier in speed due to his shunshin and its only recently that the likes of Kirabi and Raikage have emerged to be revealed as faster characters.

You missed Gai out :zaru

•Sharingan Squid•
11-03-2009, 12:05 PM
Why are you talking about speed demons? Sasuke isn't even top tier in speed. You mean Tobi who acts scared or impressed by anything commented on Sasukes speed? I would hope so. Deidara is a ranged fighter, what was he suppose to do pull out a clay sword and clash with Sasuke up close? It doesn't matter who he fought he would have eventually gotten some distance to use his attacks.

I love how you got that he "easily blocked and evaded" when all you see in your linked page is a bunch of lines indicating a minor clash and Deidara admitting that there was no way he could escape.You have nothing really backing you up except your twisted view of dialogue and events.Gai on the other hand boasts a 5 in speed to Sasuke's 4.5.
The only reason he could not escape was Kakashi knowing his whereabouts once more.
Team Gai was no threat at all, lol. For all Deidara cared, they could have been standing still the whole time, wouldn't have made a difference at all.

The only reason Gai has 5 in speed is the gates. Base Gai is 2 in speed, at best. Jesus christ, getting shit on by a wounded Akatsuki member like that :lmao Even less, he was getting the tar beat out of him by a 30% clone of an Akatsuki member. Gai's speed is pure bollocks and has never actually given him the edge over anyone.
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/09/

Turn to the next page, Deidara dodges the attack (which he didn't need a warning for) :zaru
Sasuke wasn't aiming to cut one of them in particular, Tobi was still there and Sasuke cut him (which was really evaded by the S/T technique).
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/10/
First of all, he was using Shunshin. Sasuke using base speed + no shunshin wouldn't even surprise Deidara.

Plus, he was distracted because he noticed his C1s were not detonating.
He didn't even try to detonate them, hence Tobi yelling "Don't detonate them!" etc etc
You lack reading comprehension and are just babbling to make up excuses for Gai's pathetic failure.
All? More like just Tenten's. :hehee
Yes, all, the clashing clearly indicates this.
When you look at the next page you see all of Team Fail landing, having failed to capture or even graze an armless man :haha
Says someone who thinks Sauce is faster than base Gai.
Who the fuck isn't faster than base Gai? lol
You missed Gai out :zaru
:rotfl
You mean the guy a wounded, armless Deidara shat on while holding a kunai between his teeth?

Rampage
11-03-2009, 12:07 PM
The only reason Gai has 5 in speed is the gates. Base Gai is 2 in speed, at best. . Gai's speed is pure bollocks and has never actually given him the edge over anyone.



:sag are you serious, you think his speed is 2? :lmao
now thats just plain Dumb

•Sharingan Squid•
11-03-2009, 12:09 PM
2,5 at the very maximum.

Rampage
11-03-2009, 12:10 PM
2,5 at the very maximum.

:facepalm....

ytv1
11-04-2009, 10:34 PM
Raikage moves so fast he creates afterimages of himself.

Gai moves so fast he rips the space-time continuum. He may well be the one to defeat Uchiha Madara.

Thus, Gai > Raikage in speed.

Monzaemon
11-05-2009, 09:20 AM
Gai's kicks and punches were breaking orbital velocities (5 miles per second), I think that fact settles this one.

Raikage is faster than Deidara's CO that covered a 10 kilometer wide area within a second (Sasuke could see and react to the explosion but couldn't follow the Raikage with his eyes).

As for his fists being ignited...it's just an artistic emphasis Kishimoto used to depict how fast Gai was moving. I mean, it's not like because only Sasori's Satetsu spikes broke the sound barrier in the manga, that no one else can move faster than the speed of sound because they never made any sonic booms.

biar
11-06-2009, 03:22 AM
http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/08/
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http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/357/13/ - Sasuke being so fast even Deidara needs to be warned and resorts to using an explosive to keep distance.

http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/277/15/
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http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/277/16/ - Deidara easily evading and blocking all of Team Gai's blows without arms and just a kunai in his mouth.

Jesus christ, anyone who still believes Gai is actually something compared to the speed demons of this manga is kidding himself :lmao

After Gai was exhausted from opening his 6th gate and having an off panel fight against his own perfect clone? Look at how bruised and exhausted Gai face was in the panel.

Those panels didn't even show Gai attempting to hit Deidara but a bunch of shuriken throwings by others. The armless Deidara speedblitzing Team Gai scene was an anime filler.

Death Note
11-06-2009, 10:34 AM
Gai is by far the fastest person in in world. Only thunder rival his speed.

timmysblood
11-06-2009, 10:40 AM
2,5 at the very maximum.

you best be trolling son

Raikage blitzed Sasuke's vision on foot. What allowed him to move faster than Sasuke's gaze was his movement speed. He has the reactions to anticipate and react to Amaterasu and has the movement speed to run from it.

and 6 gated gai wouldn't have the speed to dodge sasuke's gaze?

no doubt raikage is a speed demon, and his reactions as described in the manga fire at the speed of light. However ive yet to see him move so fast his hands light on fire.

Rampage
11-06-2009, 12:52 PM
Gai is by far the fastest person in in world. Only thunder rival his speed.

100% truth :awesome

leetlegit
11-06-2009, 01:16 PM
my vote goes to gai. i havent seen enough of raikage to say. gai specialize in hand to hand fighting. even if 6 gates not strong enough im certain once more gates are open gai would be faster

Rampage
11-20-2009, 04:09 PM
my vote goes to gai. i havent seen enough of raikage to say. gai specialize in hand to hand fighting. even if 6 gates not strong enough im certain once more gates are open gai would be faster

imo 6 gates may be enough

Black Sabbath II
11-20-2009, 04:14 PM
Fastest people in the series.

1.Yondaime
2.Raikage
3.Gai
4.Itachi

This can not be countered it has been stated as such for most of these people. Thread over. No need to necro this topic.

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